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Hey people.
I have spent almost an hour looking and reading for 'new buyers guide' and advice for new owners.
Found a few but they got off topic quickly and didn't offer advice pro or con.

I'm looking at a 4WD for ski access. (Live in Wanaka)
2004, V8 with 100,000k plus change. Just had cam-belt done plus full service from dealer.

Have done a lot of research, and found that its either heavy negative or positive. Nothing in the middle. Negative mostly around drive train (possibly not effecting the v8 as much?) and also regarding sensor and errors with electrical components.

My question: What has been your experience with repairs for these vehicles. Especially anyone that has had or still has the 04 V8 model.

Thanks guys...
 

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Unfortunately you're looking at a 12 year old car and they can go wrong.

Other people will have had good experiences and some will have had bad ones.

No one can really tell you what to expect from a car no one else has even seen or driven.

Touaregs are not cheap to run and they're certainly not cheap to fix.

If you want one, you need to be prepared to pay to play.
 

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Thanks for the reply. Not really answering my question though.
I have owned many cars before, and I can count from 2016 back to 2004 to figure out how old the vehicle is.
What I am after is peoples perspective of this car v's their other vehicle purchases.
I have asked this questions on other sites and gained my answer. I wont be a Touareg owner, at least not until generation 3 or later.
 

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Have you looked at the 3.0 tdi, less of a unicorn than the v8. Most problems around the drive train are well known and have solutions.
 

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Thanks mate. Yeah I would rather the 3TDi, but looks like everyone else would rather those as well, so prices are still quite high.
My aim is for a solid 4WD to take kids and wife up the mountain here in Wanaka, petrol prices aren't an issue so thought the V8 should also be solid also. But what I have feedback on, is that repairs are higher than normal compared to other vehicles. A shame cause they are a good looking vehicle.
If I had the funds I would go for the generation 2, which is the same for most vehicles. Bugs are sorted out. But its $5,000 over my budget.
 

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I haven't driven the v8, but by all accounts it is one of the more pleasurable experiences you will have in a leather seat. But like Nooby said, you have gotta have your eyes wide open and expect that things are getting a little long in the tooth, things like rubber hoses will be harder and prone to crack as an example. If you have the inclination , tools and patience and a little bit of know how, then it may be worth taking the punt. Definitely have it scanned with a Vcds for error codes and then drive it for at least an hour and then Re scan before you give them a dime. Plenty of stories of people buying a lemon and realising 200km into the trip home.
 

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Thanks for the reply. Not really answering my question though.
I have owned many cars before, and I can count from 2016 back to 2004 to figure out how old the vehicle is.
What I am after is peoples perspective of this car v's their other vehicle purchases.
I have asked this questions on other sites and gained my answer. I wont be a Touareg owner, at least not until generation 3 or later.
Generation 3 is out in 2017 so your last sentence doesn't tally with looking at a 2004 V8.

Or do you mean the T3 which is what we call the 2nd generation Touareg?

Compared to 3 previous BMWs and 3 SAABs in which I covered 900,000 miles with only one unexpected breakdown and in all of which I simply drove the car, serviced it; drove it, serviced it; drove it serviced it and put some new tyres on; drove it . . you get the idea, then the 150,000 miles in my 2003 T1 was crap and which is why I would never run a Touareg without a good warranty.
 

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I'm looking at a 4WD for ski access. (Live in Wanaka)
2004, V8 with 100,000k plus change. Just had cam-belt done plus full service from dealer.

Have done a lot of research, and found that its either heavy negative or positive. Nothing in the middle. Negative mostly around drive train (possibly not effecting the v8 as much?) and also regarding sensor and errors with electrical components.
Welcome to ClubTouareg!

Consider that people are motivated to describe their experiences at each end of the distribution curve. I have a great experience, I'm going to celebrate. I have an awful experience, I want to belly-ache. On the other hand, if things are going along fine, then I've got other things to do. :)

Also, forums tend to collect people at the two ends of the spectrum...the rabid fans and those that need help or support.

That having been said...German cars can be somewhat needy, and older German cars can be needy and expensive. They are also great to drive, and with proper care/support, they will last a long time. I'm approaching 1.5M miles total on a variety of Audi and VWs, and I would find it difficult to consider anything else. I've had two A6s with over 200K, and there's nothing in the stable with less than 110K.

You do need a good private mechanic and/or some good wrenching skills. Good fortune also helps. One year, we spent a total of $50 in maintenance on our '96 A6, at a point when it had about 175K miles. Another year, well... :)

If you love the Treg, you'll deal with its foibles. If you're looking for good solid reliable transportation that *never* gives you an issue, you should probably be looking a bit further east (so to speak).

Good luck with your search...we're all happy to help!

And of course, whatever you do choose, remember...the care provided by the previous owner is the best predictor of future performance. And get a good thorough PPI before you purchase anything!
 

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I will say I wanted a V10 TDI with air but after realizing that I was not sure I wanted to deal with the possible issues I decided on a 2010 3.0L TDI with 70K miles on it in near mint condition! So far I have had some minor issues. Lift gate ball broke off, had it replaced free from the dealer. Airbag light on right now but not super worried about it. Those were the only two issues I have had. The car has been nothing but stellar. It's powerful, fun to drive and goes through anything. I too own several older vehicles, one of them an 2005 audi allroad (air suspension), it's been fantastic as well but I spent a good $8K in the first 2 years to get it to where I wanted it to be maintenance wise and repairing problems. All new OEM shocks ($2500), new timing belt, timing tensioner, waterpump, thermostat, plugs, seals, hoses, sensors, wiring, radiator, suspension compressor rebuild, new suspension bags. But now it's solid! No matter what you will spend some money, so you either buy a newer one and spend the money now (with no warranty later too), or you buy an older one –the best one you can find and have it checked out before purchasing. Spend the money right away to repair all the problems and drive it! These cars are like nothing else out there. Especially the unicorns! But even for us here in the US, all touaregs are unicorns except for maybe the T3's which are not a touareg to me! ;) The older ones will cost you! Plan to always spend at least $5-10K in the first couple years unless you buy it from an owner you has taken care of the thing and has proof of all work done. I tend to buy my cars from people like this, I know what was done, by whom and since you have done all the research you can check off all the problematic issues (not that they won't be a problem later but it's still a plus). I will say this, despite any issues that will arise from me with this car, I will keep it. It's one of the best trucks I have owned! You will not regret the purchase despite the money you may have to throw at it. You are here asking these questions because you know what this thing is about! Sounds like the one you are looking at is in better condition. I would have them do another full inspection of the vehicle. You need to test drive it and inspect it yourself after your research and they need to inspect the common issues with these cars. If you can buy a warranty for it, I would go that route. (I skipped on this as I think most warranties are a scam). Good luck!
 

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@noobytoogy yeah, what I meant was that I'd rather a 3rd generation vehicle as bugs are far less. But as you said the 2nd Gen is almost at an end so there is no way i'd be able to purchase a brand new Touareg end of this year.

Thanks for the replies guys. The one I am looking at seems to have a good history. last 3 years are accounted for including new cam belt and complete, $1200 service. I'd most certainly go for a 'hard' drive in the vehicle and then plug in a scanner to check codes. I do all beginner mech work myself. Oil, air, services, I also pulled apart my super-charger on the old mini... but that was easy and just needed to remember what I pulled out and where it went. But Euro vehicles require more than what I could manage.

After I get the full service history, I'll get a friend to go for a blat and then book a scan. Not much else I can do being 1200km away from the vehicle.
Again, thanks for the replies. I'm second guessing my original decision of not buying a Touareg...
 

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I would never ever in a million years buy a Touareg that I could not inspect and test drive myself.
 

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no of course not. But I'm not flying 2 hours on a plane until I get a pre-check... Then I can go over it myself if I don;t think I'm wasting my time.
 

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The big risk is that your friend will probably enjoy the drive too much to be sufficiently removed to stand back and be critical on your behalf!

I suggest you get your chum to carefully read the buying a used Touareg thread so he knows what he is looking for such as the well known dodgy centre bearing and the not quite so well known rust spots.

He needs to check ALL the buttons and knows and if he does not know the car might miss some important things
 
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