[Matt fly’s]

I have had no mechanical issues whatsoever however I’m thinking that the transmission would have been working overtime towing 3.4t for 50,000km. I have always done mid service interval oil and oil filter changes.
1 not sure how to do it ( I couldn’t find on YouTube )
2 Vw tell me the transmission fluid should never need changing and I’m worried if I change it that may affect warranty.
Thoughts?

 

[SaVAGeSoot]

How much more warranty do you have?
Remember that you also have diffs and a transfer case that are also NOT lifetime.

 

[Dannyboy485]

I have had no mechanical issues whatsoever however I’m thinking that the transmission would have been working overtime towing 3.4t for 50,000km. I have always done mid service interval oil and oil filter changes.
1 not sure how to do it ( I couldn’t find on YouTube )
2 Vw tell me the transmission fluid should never need changing and I’m worried if I change it that may affect warranty.
Thoughts?

Changing transmission fluid will not invalid your warranty because it isn't covered anyway unless you have some kind of extra extended warranty. Even then changing early would never invalidate a warranty. Unless you used wrong fluid or messed the fill up.

 

[SaVAGeSoot]

Pump the brakes on that video... I believe the new "CRs" have switched to ZF instead of our Aisin boxes.... just double check that I'm not crazy this morning.

 

[Dannyboy485]

Pump the brakes on that video... I believe the new "CRs" have switched to ZF instead of our Aisin boxes.... just double check that I'm not crazy this morning.

I just realized he's on the aussie market so I don't know the when they changed to ZFs
My bad!!

 

[SaVAGeSoot]

Yeah, them lucky bastards got the "3rd" gens.... I think starting in '18 and I believe that's when they switched to the ZFs too.

 

[SaVAGeSoot]

1 not sure how to do it ( I couldn’t find on YouTube )

Remind me again how much this whip cost you?
Why in the name of everything that we didn't get on this side of the pond would you attempt to service it following junk that anyone can post on youtube?
Spend a few more dollars on proper service\maintenance docs from erWin for the exact equipment you have.

 

[Matt fly’s]

How much more warranty do you have?
Remember that you also have diffs and a transfer case that are also NOT lifetime.

5 years unlimited km warranty

 

[SaVAGeSoot]

5 years unlimited km warranty

Sounds like you still have another 3y and ~150k worth of coverage based on your current use pattern.... I wouldn't touch it if it's covered by the warranty and that's what VW wants to do since it's "lifetime".

 

[rgh0]

In the maintenance section of the Erwin manual for the 7P at least, VW recommend replacement of the transmission fluid in hot climate or severe operating conditions such as doing a lot of towing, as every 60,000 kms. Most VW dealers and techs dont read this section and just rely on the routine service item list. I would do the diffs and transfer case at the same time.

If you are doing the transmission change yourself or at a local service place and just draining and dropping the pan you only get around 1/2 the transmission fluid out, Thus i actually do the half change every 30,000 kms to keep the average transmission fluid age within the 60000 km target. You need to fully flush out the old fluid when doing the change if doing it every 60,000 kms

I see no reason why the ZF in the CR would be any different.

cheers
Rohan

 

[Singh]

Firstly, which oil change are you referring to, the ZF OD5 is an integrated unit with transfer box and final drive(different to previous gen Touaregs), so there's three different oil systems...perhaps the ATF? All three have separate procedures to extract, refill and of course different fluid types that can't be interchanged.
I recall reading that ZF recommend ATF change at 70-80k miles.
If so worried I would get the dealership to change all three.

 

[Dubby]

I have a 7P MY16, 8-speed (no low range) 180kW. (previous V10 I had oil changed throughout at around 50k - no probs). Bit lax with this one, or maybe not many dusty roads, but 100k klms, so asked the stealer about changing the tranny fluid. (diffs have been done). He replied, sealed for life - can't be done. I say BS. Next step will be to see my local Euro specialist. Stealer also wanted $868.00 for a new battery. It has lasted 7 years so original was good. But, any recommendations (Sunny Coast Qld). Dubby

 

[Golf Wang]

Pump the brakes on that video... I believe the new "CRs" have switched to ZF instead of our Aisin boxes.... just double check that I'm not crazy this morning.

definitely ZF on CR

 

[SaVAGeSoot]

I have a 7P MY16, 8-speed (no low range) 180kW. (previous V10 I had oil changed throughout at around 50k - no probs). Bit lax with this one, or maybe not many dusty roads, but 100k klms, so asked the stealer about changing the tranny fluid. (diffs have been done). He replied, sealed for life - can't be done. I say BS. Next step will be to see my local Euro specialist. Stealer also wanted $868.00 for a new battery. It has lasted 7 years so original was good. But, any recommendations (Sunny Coast Qld). Dubby

You need a new dealer for sure!

 

[SaVAGeSoot]

Visual of what @Singh is telling you

 

[Singh]

Visual of what @Singh is telling you
View attachment 254719

That's helpful, and illustrates how the ZF is setup and different to previous aisin boxes.
The integrated unit with all the gimmickry results in less weight, smoother shifts, improved efficiency etc etc....plus the cooling is all different as well

 

[rgh0]

It also results in the engine being further forward and all that weight is ahead of the front axle which theorectically at least does not help the handling. But like they say of the evolution of rear engine Porsche handling over the last 60 years ......"its a triumph of engineering over physics"

 

[Singh]

Handling, cornering, steering on road in the CR is best hands down across the gens...well atleast in my limited experience of 18yrs spread across 7L 7P CR.
eAWS with 4 wheel steering is magic
Need to take the CR more on some challenging off road tracks to try the active disconnecting roll bars etc....

 

[SaVAGeSoot]

The CR is full of awesomeness tech.... I'm jelly AF of you guys.... just sayin

 

[Golf Wang]

The CR is full of awesomeness tech.... I'm jelly AF of you guys.... just sayin

me too man, me too. i would think with the success of the atlas VW would reintroduce the touareg as an upgrade for happy Atlas owners who want "more." if toyota can sell 60, 70K+ SUVs I do not see why Atlas owners looking for an upgrade wouldn't buy a Touareg over an Audi. but maybe VW knows it's numbers better than me lol.