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Misfire on cylinder #4

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#1 ·
Ever since we bought our V6 Touareg, it has idled irregular at times and nearly stalled. The dealer and VWOA always claimed there was no problem even though others on the dealer lot never had the same issue.

Recently the 3 week old truck threw a check engine light and nearly left my wife stranded. She called the dealer and on their recommendation limped the truck back to the dealer. BTW...she was on the way home from the dealer where she picked up the truck from the last round of repairs.

After a few days, VWOA and the dealer came to a consensus that reseting the electronics and changing the oil to 0W-30 sythetic would fix the problem. The error was a misfire in cylinder 4. They could not find any hard failures, so after we expressed our concern they also changed the ignition coils. Hopefully they have fixed the problem, but I doubt it.

What is the correct weight oil for the Treg?
I thought it was bad to put synthetic in a new motor, before everything seats. Is this true?
What oil do Tregs come from the factory with?

Thanks for your help, we like the Treg but cannot spend 33k on a truck that leaves us stranded along side of the road.
 
#2 ·
I got mine in Germany and I had the oil changed there. There are using Castrol Longlife 0W-30, 6.300 liters. I don't know yet if this oil is suitable for hot climates though, can anyone help us with this?. Oil filter should be changed as well. Don't overfill, ruins the catalyst.

www.volkswagen-fleet.co.uk/assets/Longlife_servicing.pdf

Mine had misfire in 3 cylinders, after they washed the engine with pressurized water, so they shorted the ignition coils. The engine idled irregulary, the engine icon (measures abnormal exhaust gases) was lit on the dashboard and unburned fuel was coming out from the exhaust.

I've heard from a Mercedes mechanic that mercedes cars have some oil additives when coming out of the factory, which help the engine wear uniformly during break-in. He said that this oil shouldn't be changed too early. I don't know if VW uses them as well.

Keep us posted...
 
#3 ·
Problem still there

Just thought I would update everyone...

We just got our Touareg back yesterday. I had a chance to drive it today only to find the problem still exists!!! So I will now have to drive the sputtering truck around until it sputters hard enough to through another check engine light. Then we will take it back to the dealer. It really is a shame the dealer and VWOA will not recognize there is a problem unless the little check engine light on the dash lights up.
 
#4 ·
Ask the dealer if the diagnostic computer, the VAG-5051, or something like it, reports a 'zero fault' reply when hooked up. The diagnostic comp reports the detailed status of all engine components, sensor, accessories etc. The on-dash warnings indicated a serious malfunction, especially the engine icon, which means bad exhaust gases, many things may have caused that.
 
#5 ·
Misfiring

I have had this problem in all my vw's. It has happened in my wifes Jetta, a Passat I owned, and now my Touareg. Is it a check engine light and the car misfiring? It feels like the car is going to fall apart.

When I just took my Touareg in for this problem, it was zero degrees where I live and the treg was running like ****. My tech at the dealer shared some info with me as to why all my vw's have acted this way. He asked me if I run 93 octane in all my vw's and I said of course. He told me during really cold weather or damp weather the cars have a really hard time buring high octane fuel hence the misfiring. The cure is to run a lower octane fuel. He said their are constant software updates for this problem. To make a long story short, they did an update to my computer and I ran a few tanks of 89 octane with no problems. It sounds totally stupied, but it works. Since when does a high octane fuel not burn hot and have no problem firing a cylinder?

Badapag
 
#6 ·
Just thought I would update everyone that was interested.

We just heard from the dealer. They are now going to replace the head on the engine. Amazing that it takes this long for them to figure something out.
 
#7 ·
I had the same sputtering issue this past Saturday...check engine light showed up.

Used OBDII scanner and it says Misfire on Cylinder #5.

Bought a new ignition coil from my nearest dealer ($43...what a rip off...but I needed it).

Now...its all fine...no check engine light...and no sputtering.

Pete
 
#8 ·
Tip:

Next time buy the coil from 1stvwparts.com
$23 or so a piece. (my dealer wanted 52 dollars!!!)
 
#10 ·
Cylinder 5 missfire

Hi All, I have just purchased my second VW, a 2004 Touareg, got used on last Friday, loaded the wife and 2 year old son in the car and were off to the aquarium, at Mc Donalds, it started sputtering and jerking, could only go about 25 mph, went to autozone to get a code check, they said cylinder 5 missfire, apparently according to the service advisor, when they cleaned the engine, they left water in the ignition coils and they are starting to rust, all of them need to be changed, they told me it's not covered by the warranty, anyone know where I can get them fixed for a decent price, or if I can do it myself, and where I can find visual aids to assist me, thanks.
 
#11 ·
Hi All, I have just purchased my second VW, a 2004 Touareg, got used on last Friday, loaded the wife and 2 year old son in the car and were off to the aquarium, at Mc Donalds, it started sputtering and jerking, could only go about 25 mph, went to autozone to get a code check, they said cylinder 5 missfire, apparently according to the service advisor, when they cleaned the engine, they left water in the ignition coils and they are starting to rust, all of them need to be changed, they told me it's not covered by the warranty, anyone know where I can get them fixed for a decent price, or if I can do it myself, and where I can find visual aids to assist me, thanks.
See my post above for purchase coilpacks

I also think I found a person locally that can work on Touaregs and is very affordable. timingbelt is around $300 + parts(that I can buy myself)
I wished I knew this guy 35000 miles ago when I spent $1800:sad:
Tomorrow I will get my tpms turned off 6 way salut done, seatbelt chime and intro on my nav turned off.
Then off to check my tranny and get its issues fixed.
 
#13 ·
It's really something how similar the condition of coils 4 to 6 are amongst the group here. When I did mine over this past Friday I compared them to pictures posted here and elsewhere and you'd swear they were one in the same part. So be it. If having a ball with my Touaerg means a plug AND coil change every 2-3 years that's fine for me. Easy, not too expensive and it makes a world of difference.
 
#15 ·
I just purchased a 2006 V6 touareg, certified with 37k miles. I had the pleasure to enjoy the vehicle problem free for the first 48 hours, aside from a slight hesitation under moderated throttle. I assumed since the vehicle had set at the dealer for a few months, and it only had a quarter tank of fuel it was just bad gas. My girlfriend and I filler her up with premium, 91 octane at a local mobile station before heading off to Carson City Nevada from Southern California. The engine light came on during the trip and began flashing a few times. When we got here, I immediatly hooked it up to my obd2 scan tool and came up with ten codes, all partaining to cylinder misfire. 4 and 6 were ready codes, causing the lights, and another ready code of random cylinder misfire. The rest were pending codes for cylinders 1, 2, 3, 5 and random misfires. I called the dealer where I purchased it... A dealer I used to sell for in Indio California and they told me to take it to Lithia Volkswagen in Reno, whom I have just read have a very poor service history. Now, since I am working, and sending my Girlfriend over there are there anythings that I should be conserned with partaining to getting the vehicle serviced??


I have read many reviews and posts saying that these original coil packs are problematic, and since it is under warrenty will there be any problem with them replacing all the coil packs?

I averaged 21 miles to the gallon for the 480 mile trip, throught the mountains and with some traffic so I am not thinking it was running to badly.

Any help from you guys would be great and I really look forward to both receiving your insight and sharing my own as I have been working with cars for a number of years as both a salesman and a performance mechanic.

Thanks greatly,
Chris, still a kinda proud owner just slightly discouraged of a 2006 treg with premium package and v6 yawn.