[AirBull]

Earlier Generation I powered cars (2009-2012) will be part of the company's buyback program with no modifications being available. The manufacturer will offer to purchase the cars from owners or terminate their leases completely, avoiding any troubling or time-consuming fixes.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/vw-buy-back-offer-fix-213819629.html?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma

Interesting - so what does this mean? Will VW only offer a buyback to 2009-2012 TDI Touareg owners, with no fix available? Does that mean if you decide you don't want to sell the vehicle back to VW, that the Government will still allow you to renew your emission inspection/registration on a vehicle that they have proclaimed is non-compliant to emissions standards? (These vehicles all have DEF and DPF's, mind you.)

Can you imagine how that would work? People literally forced to get out of their diesel vehicles?

Very interesting to see what becomes of the EcoDiesel in the Jeep.

 

[m-fine]

VW cannot confiscate your Touareg. They can offer you a buyback that is for more than it is worth. If 85% take the offer, VW is done. If not, they pay an extra fine.

EPA also cannot (easily?) confiscate your car, but the states could make it difficult for you to keep it registered or inspected if that has not been covered in any of the settlements.

We will have to wait to see what the offer is exactly, but if you want a diesel Touareg, you will likely be able to take the buyout and then buy a used 2013-2015 from someone who wants to be rid of theirs and wasn't offered a buyout.

 

[noobytoogy]

This question should have been asked in this thread where all the dieselgate stuff is.

http://www.clubtouareg.com/forums/f89/vw-tdi-epa-recall-2-0l-and-3-0l-216585.html

 

[AirBull]

This question should have been asked in this thread where all the dieselgate stuff is.

http://www.clubtouareg.com/forums/f89/vw-tdi-epa-recall-2-0l-and-3-0l-216585.html

No offense, but that thread is 795 pages long (and counting) and is blended between 2.0L TDI (meaningless to Touareg owners) and now this new Federal ruling (December 2016) affecting Touareg TDI owners. That thread is useless to me.

 

[AirBull]

VW cannot confiscate your Touareg. They can offer you a buyback that is for more than it is worth. If 85% take the offer, VW is done. If not, they pay an extra fine.

EPA also cannot (easily?) confiscate your car, but the states could make it difficult for you to keep it registered or inspected if that has not been covered in any of the settlements.

We will have to wait to see what the offer is exactly, but if you want a diesel Touareg, you will likely be able to take the buyout and then buy a used 2013-2015 from someone who wants to be rid of theirs and wasn't offered a buyout.

While they wouldn't call it "confiscation" outright, that is essentially what they would be doing if they (VW and then the EPA) said you have no choice but to sell it back to VW or stop driving it. My Dad's Touareg is a MY12 TDI Executive with like 33k miles on, not going to find too many more of them in the US.

 

[Xeno555]

Show me a(any) case in any of our states, where a factory built car in the US imported by the company, was denied subsequent registration.

This is USA not Russia.

 

[Oregon TDI]

No they cannot make you sell it back. They can't confiscate it. They probably can't make you get it fixed (assuming a fix is approved). I believe the way the settlements are worded no state or local authority can refuse to issue registration.

You can ignore this entire thing if you want and keep driving.

The point is to make the incentives attractive enough to owners that they will voluntarily take the buyback or whatever.

 

[hashandEGGS]

No they cannot make you sell it back. They can't confiscate it. They probably can't make you get it fixed (assuming a fix is approved). I believe the way the settlements are worded no state or local authority can refuse to issue registration.

You can ignore this entire thing if you want and keep driving.

The point is to make the incentives attractive enough to owners that they will voluntarily take the buyback or whatever.

But will You be able to get it serviced or any parts after all is said and done???

 

[Hardtime]

VW cannot confiscate your Touareg. They can offer you a buyback that is for more than it is worth. If 85% take the offer, VW is done. If not, they pay an extra fine.

What happens to the buyback price IF deadline approaches and the 85% number hasn't been achieved? How much will VW offer per vehicle to avoid millions of dollars in fines? Might be worth holding on to my vehicle until the last minute.

 

[nickyt]

Short answer: No

 

[noobytoogy]

No offense, but that thread is 795 pages long (and counting) and is blended between 2.0L TDI (meaningless to Touareg owners) and now this new Federal ruling (December 2016) affecting Touareg TDI owners. That thread is useless to me.

So you question does not arise as a result of dieselgate and the court ruling?

 

[Oregon TDI]

There are a lot of unknowns but I see zero chance of VW upping the compensation or buyback terms to entice more takers. Not gonna happen.

Touaregs are still being built for many other markets. Parts availability is probably a non-issue for many years. German law requires car makers to make spare parts available for a minimum of 10 years after a model is discontinued. That clock probably doesn't start until the new 2018 Touareg is released.

Competent mechanics who can work on them are already in short supply. That situation won't get any better.

Yeppers, the questions posed in this thread belong someplace else. Oh well. Maybe a mod will merge threads or close this one and refer people to the primary thread.

 

[ccrocket]

It's going to be really hard finding parts, and nobody will ever service a TDI ever again. Diesel mechanics will all be sent to Siberia for re-education training, and all diesel pumps will be shut off within a year. Therefore, if someone who just happens to be using my e-mail address should offer you a really low price for your post-fix used 2013-2015 Tdi you should absolutely sell it to them for a huge discount because nobody else will ever want your car. I will take the hit for the home team and take care of the poor unwanted TReg out of the goodness of my heart.

 

[Xeno555]

They will scrape them up at car lots and auctions.

 

[hashandEGGS]

It's going to be really hard finding parts, and nobody will ever service a TDI ever again. Diesel mechanics will all be sent to Siberia for re-education training, and all diesel pumps will be shut off within a year. Therefore, if someone who just happens to be using my e-mail address should offer you a really low price for your post-fix used 2013-2015 Tdi you should absolutely sell it to them for a huge discount because nobody else will ever want your car. I will take the hit for the home team and take care of the poor unwanted TReg out of the goodness of my heart.

Seems like their should be an auction for the more rare Touaregs . Possibly a new thead listing the current offers and allowing someone to outbid VWOA to preserve the species.

 

[Yeti]

Airbull, I stand to loose more than you since my '10 has options you were never offered on your '12 Exec. I have no desire to sell mine back nor do I care if they ever fix it. I just want to keep driving it and still be able to get it registered. If they want to throw me some money for accelerated depreciation then so be it. We just need to wait and see what they are going to offer us. Speculation is getting us no where and just getting people frustrated.

 

[sati8d1]

Amen Yeti - let's keep speculation and opinions down to a minimum please. Let's try to keep the facts flowing. I'm interested in selling it back and let me tell you, the info on how to do that is not intuitive! I'm sad to sell, as I had wanted one for years and finally bought a 12' Lux - great vehicle....then the recall - bummed. As we're heading out cruising on our sailboat to south America in 3 yrs, I just need some wheels to hold me over, so I'm gonna looking at reliable and resale, probably Honda pilot....don't care, just reliable really

Smooth throttles and fantastic fun wheelies!

 

[Dpkhym]

Confiscate? No, don't be a drama queen.

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[nickm]

Please do not start new threads on dieselgate. All discussion needs to stay within this thread : http://www.clubtouareg.com/forums/f89/vw-tdi-epa-recall-2-0l-and-3-0l-216585.html