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I'm looking at purchasing a used v10 TDI (2004) with 174K miles. Like to know what to look for and test before closing the deal. I drive a TDI Passat now and have always wanted the v10 horse! Owner says the engine light says a oxygen or emission sensor needs repair or replacement. Also says there is small oil gasket leak. From what I know which is close to nothing the oil leal is something that needs to be determined and perhaps the emission sensor can be bypassed somehow. I was planning to take it to the VW dealer to have the computer check and see what gives there. Any other suggestions from the V10 user community here???

I would really like to find a good v10 and pull my fishing boat with the monster.

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I'm looking at purchasing a used v10 TDI (2004) with 174K miles. Like to know what to look for and test before closing the deal. I drive a TDI Passat now and have always wanted the v10 horse! Owner says the engine light says a oxygen or emission sensor needs repair or replacement. Also says there is small oil gasket leak. From what I know which is close to nothing the oil leal is something that needs to be determined and perhaps the emission sensor can be bypassed somehow. I was planning to take it to the VW dealer to have the computer check and see what gives there. Any other suggestions from the V10 user community here???

I would really like to find a good v10 and pull my fishing boat with the monster.

Michael
Oil gasket leak or tandem pump oil seal leak? Oil gasket leaks are fairly rare, tandem pump seals (on the BACK of the RH head) not so rare.
"Owner says" - engine light??? get the owner to provide a complete scan printout - from a dealer - to show that is exactly what is causing the engine light. At the same time, the dealer should be happy to provide an estimate of the cost to fix same.
Where are you located? USA? STATE? country? etc
 

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I'm located in USA/Louisiana. The closest dealer is in New Orleans. The local dealer in Baton Rouge said they would not touch a V10. They had a real bad experience repairing one and since then will not even change a light bulb. Tells me a lot about this dealer. They have taken care of my Passat TDI so far anyway.
 

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Tells me a lot about this dealer.

I don't think you can condemn the dealer on this one. Most dealerships don't have the know how to work on these vehicles, whether they be V10's, V6's or whatever.



Case in point... I brought my V6 gasser into the local dealership to have the vehicles battery changed before Winter came. They quoted me a decent price for an OEM battery. I asked how much for the install. $20 was the quick answer. I gave the go ahead and proceeded to wait outside for it to be done. 10-15 mins. later the service rep. comes out, sits next to me and says... "About your battery, it's special and would take 3 days to get". "Also the battery is not in the engine bay, it's under the drivers seat". The battery price quote stayed the same but they said 3 hours to change it out.
I said thanks but no thanks and left. Ordered a battery online and changed it out myself in ~45 mins.

I'd venture to say it took them all that 10-15 mins. looking for the battery under the hood only to finally consult the repair manual and realize it was under the drivers seat. I already knew that before I went in.

Point is... consult a good Indy mechanic in your area that might have more knowledge on these vehicles than the stealership.


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Any Touareg can be expensive to fix especially as they age and thinga get worn out or go wrong.

The V10 is a supercar engine that can result in supercar bills particulately because the engine has to come out for a lot of repairs.

Do take the time to read the buying a used Touareg thread - link in my signature below.

If you can take big hits on your bank balance - fine - but the one piece of advice I give everybody is never ever buy any Touareg with known faults. Walk away.

And in the case of a V10 with known engine faults . . . RUN!
 

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Also remember that not all Mechanics know how to work on Touaregs especially the V8’s and V10’s. They’re different breads.
Most VW shops don’t want to work on any of them. When my starter went out, my dealer told me they weren’t sure it was the starter but they didn’t want to work on it. And they weren’t entirely to sure how to work on it. ( great things you want to be hearing from a VW/Audi/Porsche dealer ) The quote from the dealer for just the starter was 7k... They asked me if they some how got it started one more time, if I’d “just take it home and put it on eBay...”
I flatbeded out of their that day, never to return. Got it fixed some where else for much cheaper the following week.


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The V10 went out of production a decade ago.

Given turnover of staff in main dealers it is possible that there may be no one on the workshop floor now who has has the benefit of the factory courses that would have been available when the car was launched some15 years ago.

VW dealers' focus is on shifting hundreds of their small and medium sized cars each quarter.

As far as dealers were concerned the Touareg and the Phaeton were unwelcome additions to the VW range and the models and their cusomers never really received the kind of attention that they deserved given their unit cost.

So it''s not surprising to read of dealers pricing themselves out of Touareg repairs! There may be similar tales from Phaeton owners too.

Unless the car is still under some form of VW warranty then owners and would-be owners of any Generation 1 car should now be using knowledgeable independents rather than relying upon the VW dealer technicians who seem to be driven by whatever the computer says may be wrong and who will keep replacing parts ad infinitum rather than actually using their brains!
 

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Touareg v10

I have used a one man mechanic that jumped out on his own couple months from being a certified BMW mechanic. I plan to bring the V10 to him, put on the computer and have him look over the 2 turbos to see what gives. I can pick up this V10 for $3500. The body is in good shape, no wrecks. there is no owners manual so I would have to pick up one to see what the heck the 500 switches and buttons inside are all about. It appears this thing has auto leveling, and 4 wheel turning of some kind. Geez guys this like you say could be a money pit. My goal was to have this to pull my boat (22ft. Pathfinder). I don't think my Passat TDI has enough twist in her to do a good job. Guess I could look for a Touareg 6 TDI but will have to pay more for sure. The AC is basically a freezer so that is good for Louisiana. Will just see what gives with the computer check. I took some pics of the dash when I inspected it today and ran the motor for 20 minutes or so. It seems to take some time to warm up but the motor ran smooth with little to no knock. For sure, would need to put lots of grease on your hand to get inside this engine compartment to work on anything. I can see why they say you just pull the engine to do anything.
Thinking that if I can keep the motor viable she could be ok. Has 174K on her which is not much for a diesel really.
Any other suggestions besides 'run' away as fast as possible...one of my first questions is getting parts that fit, like worn out buttons for windows etc etc, all paint or color is gone.
 

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If you don’t run, I got a perfect suggestion for you.

Remortgage your home...

Best part is you’ll have to sell your 22” boat to repair the V10 and by the time that’s done You’re new Touareg and Passat will will be able to tow your new dinghy with ease!!!


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In all seriousness ECS tuning sells all the window switches, some you can’t replace with out replacing the unit its self like the A/C ones. But they do make stickers that cover them pretty well.

I’m sure it’s not that bad.... I think everyone concern here is you gotta know what you’re getting into. This isn’t a BMW. This is in a league of its own. It’s not a Toy. It’s not a first car, it’s not a college kids car. It’s a very expensive truck that requires the upmost attention. You need to be in love with it. Because there’s gonna be days where it doesn’t start, and the repair bill will look like a phone number.


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To the OP, I would save up your money for a V6TDI. You have no idea what you are getting into with this beast. Motor needs to be pulled for quite a few maintenance issues you may incur. Turbos being the main one. I would walk away from this one.
 

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I laughed out loud with the comment the repair bill would look like a phone number!!! I’m still laughing as I type this.

Maybe you guys are right on this one. I don’t drive a Touareg now, i’m In a 2013 Passat TDI. I love this car. It went through the remap that VW had to do on the TDCIs and then I put a RaceChip in it and got my 40 plus mpg back. The boat I need to tow is 3K lbs so don’t think I can limp along with the Passat towing the boat. have to do a truck or some diesel suv of some kind. I like the VWs so I guess I could look for one of the 6cyl. Is the a better year than others for the 6cyl?
 

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I laughed out loud with the comment the repair bill would look like a phone number!!! I’m still laughing as I type this.

Maybe you guys are right on this one. I don’t drive a Touareg now, i’m In a 2013 Passat TDI. I love this car. It went through the remap that VW had to do on the TDCIs and then I put a RaceChip in it and got my 40 plus mpg back. The boat I need to tow is 3K lbs so don’t think I can limp along with the Passat towing the boat. have to do a truck or some diesel suv of some kind. I like the VWs so I guess I could look for one of the 6cyl. Is the a better year than others for the 6cyl?
The cheaper V6 TDI will be the 09-10, but not sure how many are out there to be had. Most turned them in with the emissions suit and not sure if VW is fixing them and releasing them back to the public. Been reading the Golf, Jetta, Passat from that same time frame are not being fixed and destroyed. The fix on this year did not really seem to change the vehicle at all. I have noticed little difference after the fix on mine other than I now have an official decal under the hood.
 

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Listen man, as long as you know it’s gonna be super expensive to maintain do it! Just don’t go into it blind. You only live once... Live it up


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Best part is you’ll have to sell your 22” boat to repair the V10


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This was a good laugh :grin2::grin2:


Now you know what to expect go scan it and post the log here.
If nothing serious throw the 3K $ at it and enjoy it.
If it gets sick and you can not repair it you can always find someone who is willing to put money into it.
 

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Any other suggestions from the V10 user community here???

I would really like to find a good v10 and pull my fishing boat with the monster.
I cannot think of any upside to this plan. Well, one upside is your tales of woe and remorse would be entertaining.

A V6 TDI will pull any fishing boat that you can tow on a highway.
 

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And read nooby's list for what to check before you buy so you know what to expect for initial visible repairs. I regretted not reading all this stuff before buying my 2004 V6 3.2. It could have made avoid some risky situations like driving with a torn flex disk which I didn't check when buying the car. But now I'm happy with the Treg. I'm doing the repairs myself and would probably not have bought it if I had read all the woe tales about the Tuareg. BUT don't take my advice on this as this is not my daily vehicle. It is sitting in a garage most of the year.
 

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As much as I would like to entertain you guys here the thought of a repair bill ‘that looks like a phone number’ is a daunting prospect. My other option is to pick up some old diesel ford truck that runs good and park it at the fishing camp to tow the boat. My thought was to park the Treg there anyway as my Passat is my daily car and it gets 40gpm. My concern is don’t want to get stranded on the coast hiway with boat behind me.
I read the newbie post and the list of items to check is long for sure. Don’t get me wrong, I like tinkering just not so much with the engine 4 feet in the air.
Of course the other option taking more $s even is trading in the Passat and picking up one of the GMC Canyon Diesel trucks. Been looking at those since they hit the market couple years back. It is 4 cal but has decent twist to it.
I’m going to pick up the treg tomorrow and take it to my mechanic and let him go through it. He is not a VW expert so will likely printout the newbie list and bring it with me as a check list. Any other suggestions you guys have would be most welcome here. I’m 72 so not really up for doing a lot of serious mechanical repairs myself. It appears my BMW mechanic has aptitude just would need some manuals perhaps. I don’t need something that goes 100mph either.
Appreciate everyone’s kind inputs here and honest feedback. Tough to find honesty these days but worth the hunt.
Cheers to all.
 

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Here is a quick advice: test the transmission both cold and warm. Both automatic and manual mode.


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