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Hybrid verses TDI

3.5K views 13 replies 8 participants last post by  noobytoogy  
#1 ·
Hi,
New member looking to purchase a Hybrid or a TDI Lux---
2011 Hybrid
or
2012 TDi

Any general thoughts?
Both have mileage around 115,000
thanks
 
#3 ·
An 8 year old hybrid doesn’t sound appealing at all. Hybrid tech has improved leaps and bounds since then; diesel tech not so much. There are much better hybrids available nowadays. You can’t really say that for diesels now.


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#4 ·
You don’t really buy the Hybrid for its hybrid performance. All it really does is give you some battery boost off the line and some other nice to haves such as turning off when stopped and coasting. The real reason is that nice supercharged engine that won’t blow a fuel pump. I’ve had my 2011 for a while now and it runs great. Hope to keep it for a long time “knock on wood”


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#5 ·
The hybrid will make you smile going off the line but not at the fuel pump.

The diesel will make you smile at the fuel pump and for a few hundred dollars you can get another 50 bhp or so with a good remap.

Yes, some owners have suffered HPFP failures which can be very costly if the car has no warranty.
 
#6 ·
I'm also considering the Hybrid verses TDI.
For a 2011-2012 TDI Ive been told to look into the fuel pump and timing belt at 110k miles.
Does anyone have a TDI with that kind of mileage?

There are quite a few for sale on Carguru on the east coast. Most have 105-135k miles. Few have complete maintenance records so how can one determine
what is needed. I would get a PPI of course.

If the TDI is so expensive to repair at this mileage, might the hybrid be the way to go?

thanks for the input. Ive been researching these for the last week and drove a few TDIs and Hybrids.
I do like diesels and do much long distance driving. I had a 2011 BMW X5D with few issues until 80k miles. Emissions fixes getting costly and got rid of it.
Appreciate any feedback as I'd like to get the car in a week or so.
thanks!
 
#12 ·
I'm also considering the Hybrid verses TDI.
For a 2011-2012 TDI Ive been told to look into the fuel pump and timing belt at 110k miles.
Does anyone have a TDI with that kind of mileage?

There are quite a few for sale on Carguru on the east coast. Most have 105-135k miles. Few have complete maintenance records so how can one determine
what is needed. I would get a PPI of course.

If the TDI is so expensive to repair at this mileage, might the hybrid be the way to go?
!

The 3.0 Tdi has timing CHAINS.


ALL Touaregs can be expensive to fix especially if you have to use a VW dealer.


And I see you understand the HPFP issue - this can cost up to $16,000 to fix.
 
#8 ·
I’ve had 3 TDI’s, all of them 2011 models. Driven from 100 000 km to 200 000 km. No problems. I have never even heard of the issues with fuel pump. Anyhow, fuel pumps are not that expensive, if needed to be replaced.

Air suspension troubles are far more common...
 
#13 ·
I’ve had 3 TDI’s, all of them 2011 models. Driven from 100 000 km to 200 000 km. No problems. I have never even heard of the issues with fuel pump. Anyhow, fuel pumps are not that expensive, if needed to be replaced.

Air suspension troubles are far more common...
They don't get air suspension on the Generation 2 cars in the US.

The HPFP issue seems to be confined to US cars where it appears that diesel lubricity/quality can be an issue thus causing pumps to fail.

Mis-fuelling is an obvious no-no but so is running a Tdi low on fuel.

Regardless of where you are in the world, don't do this and especially don't try seeing just how many kliks or miles you can achieve by running the fuel tank almost dry.

When the pump pressurises the fuel it heats it up.

Not all the fuel sent to the engine is used and surplus hot fuel is returned to the fuel tank via a small cooler.

However the system also relies on the contents of the fuel tank to further cool unwanted diesel.

Therefore the standard advice on here is to treat a 1/4 full fuel tank as EMPTY and to refuel ASAP.

When a pump does fail, it grenades and send shards of metal right through the entire fuel system.

It's a HUGE job to replace parts and it can cost up to $16,000.
 
#9 ·
Timing belt? Any other 100k/160km issues?
the site repairpal has much to say
about common issues

Id like to know from real experience.

And
when comparing new either is a good choice. The TDI less$ new. Its the high mi
info.