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I'd like to convert my HID assembly for Halogen. Is there a converter plug I can purchase for this or am I stuck with HID?
HID to Halogen 2004 V8 Toureg
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I got to ask, why do you want to do this? Everyone else with halogen want HIDs. If you need more light get new bulbs and find someone with VCDS to do the six light salute mod on your Treg. There will be plenty of light in high beam when you switch them on with this mod.
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I know. Crazy right. But I honestly don't like HID lights. Never have. They are to bright & expensive to replace the bulbs. I have an opportunity now to replace the assemblies because the original ones are no longer working.
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Thanks for the input.
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I have to say that I wouldn't mind converting mine to Halogen. The Hid bulbs are expensive, don't throw as much lateral light (a critical safety feature where I live and drive), and when the Hid ballasts do wear out, they are ridiculously expensive to replace.... I have the six gun salute vagged in and its' the halogens that make that work, not the Hid's.
Having said that, the probable problem would be the question of whether the conversion would include changing the headlight housing, certain wiring harnesses, compatibility of self leveling lights, and of course, recoding for new Halogens.
I'm gonna stick with what I have. Realistically, I have to.
Having said that, the probable problem would be the question of whether the conversion would include changing the headlight housing, certain wiring harnesses, compatibility of self leveling lights, and of course, recoding for new Halogens.
I'm gonna stick with what I have. Realistically, I have to.
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Early Touareg halogens are SH!T lights.
On wet, dark roads they can be downright dangerous especially if you are stupid enough - yes, I am being rude and deliberately so as to get past the brain fart you are clearly suffering - to fit used headlight units as the plastic deteriorates and dissipates the bulb output.
If you are fortunate enough to have xenons as standard then stop bleating about the cost of bulbs and fit a pair of new ones so you can see where you are going - if not for your sake then do it for your passengers.
4300K is the factory OEM Kelvin standard. Buy good quality brand names and make sure they're not counterfeit bulbs.
On wet, dark roads they can be downright dangerous especially if you are stupid enough - yes, I am being rude and deliberately so as to get past the brain fart you are clearly suffering - to fit used headlight units as the plastic deteriorates and dissipates the bulb output.
If you are fortunate enough to have xenons as standard then stop bleating about the cost of bulbs and fit a pair of new ones so you can see where you are going - if not for your sake then do it for your passengers.
4300K is the factory OEM Kelvin standard. Buy good quality brand names and make sure they're not counterfeit bulbs.
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Noobytoogy - I'm not putting used halogens lights in my car. They are new. Factory built specifically for my car. I didn't do junk yard harvesting. Brighter lights don't necessarily mean your passengers will be safer. Being a good driver does. And I thank you for your input. It will be put to consideration. Also, I live in a city where there is more than enough light with street lamps on every corner, not to mention all of the store signs that are brightly lit! If I lived in a more rural area, I would live with them gladly.
Odessa - I'm not sure of the brightness they were already on their way out when I purchased my toureg.
Odessa - I'm not sure of the brightness they were already on their way out when I purchased my toureg.
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You won't be wanting the permanent four wheel drive either then!
Kufatec do a halogen to xenon conversion lead for the back of the headlight connection but not, I strongly suspect, a xenon to halogen lead.
Kufatec do a halogen to xenon conversion lead for the back of the headlight connection but not, I strongly suspect, a xenon to halogen lead.
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OK. Here's my take on halogen vs HID.
First off I'll qualify myself. I drive highway plow in the Canadian Rockies. I drive in conditions regularly that most of you wouldn't dream of driving in.....
The real problem, as has been pointed out in this thread several times, is the plastic lenses. They fog up, haze over and pit from the sandpaper effect until they are essentially useless. They may haze up from halogen heat faster than HID but I could care less. The headlights on a highway plow never last that long anyway. Good old glass stands up much better to the sandblasting effect than plastic. It also stands up to the heat better.
Having said that, halogen puts out more heat than HID because there are 55 watts vs. the 35 watts of HID. That would also be 55 watts of light output vs 35 watts HID. The halogens have a better spread of more light for more peripheral vision and recognition of road (or off-road) hazards, wiped out, stranded cars and wildlife. More heat from halogen also means less ice and snow build-up, especially glass vs plastic. We have found that HID requires far more stopping and cleaning headlights. No thanks.... We have started using LED brake, marker, turn and running lights and after a very short time they virtually disappear...., but they don't have to be changed and dissipate light better than regular bulbs. LED headlights in snow and cold...?
HID do work better in fog and blowing snow but only in low beam and only because they put out less energy thus less glare.
My biggest complaint about the HID's is the lack of peripheral and the lack of heat resultinging in more icing.
Sure wish there was a glass headlight option for a Touareg.:roll:
First off I'll qualify myself. I drive highway plow in the Canadian Rockies. I drive in conditions regularly that most of you wouldn't dream of driving in.....
The real problem, as has been pointed out in this thread several times, is the plastic lenses. They fog up, haze over and pit from the sandpaper effect until they are essentially useless. They may haze up from halogen heat faster than HID but I could care less. The headlights on a highway plow never last that long anyway. Good old glass stands up much better to the sandblasting effect than plastic. It also stands up to the heat better.
Having said that, halogen puts out more heat than HID because there are 55 watts vs. the 35 watts of HID. That would also be 55 watts of light output vs 35 watts HID. The halogens have a better spread of more light for more peripheral vision and recognition of road (or off-road) hazards, wiped out, stranded cars and wildlife. More heat from halogen also means less ice and snow build-up, especially glass vs plastic. We have found that HID requires far more stopping and cleaning headlights. No thanks.... We have started using LED brake, marker, turn and running lights and after a very short time they virtually disappear...., but they don't have to be changed and dissipate light better than regular bulbs. LED headlights in snow and cold...?
HID do work better in fog and blowing snow but only in low beam and only because they put out less energy thus less glare.
My biggest complaint about the HID's is the lack of peripheral and the lack of heat resultinging in more icing.
Sure wish there was a glass headlight option for a Touareg.:roll:
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Polish the lenses with Meguirs plastX to restore their clean look. Then cover with clear laminate layers. If they are finished you just peel off and put new ones.
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I've polished them so much I'll probably wear through them soon! The clear laminate layers are great and work well on glass as well. Eventually I'll just have to replace the headlights.
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Was anyone successful in replacing the HID back to factory halogen?
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Lol! How can the HID be a better option when the wires inside the housings cant handle the current and the insulation bakes off? Plus at $1000+ per side to replace the entire housing, ballast, control module and bulbs! I only paid 2k for the vehicle lol if I need more light I'll mount some KC daylighter's to the roof!
I'll figure this halogen downgrade out one way or another lol
I just need it to pass inspection
I'll figure this halogen downgrade out one way or another lol
I just need it to pass inspection
I don't quite understand how replacing a 35 watt xenon bulb with a 55/60 watt halogen will result in less heat and a lower load on the crappy wiring which won't work with the halogens without a new connecting loom which you will have to work out how to fabricate?
Have you tried to find a pair of used xenon headlight units?
Have you tried to find a pair of used xenon headlight units?
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I'm changing the entire housing assembly and short wire harness from HID to NEW Halogen
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