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Here's a fine example... ran across these while looking for something else.....

We, the consumers, told them loud and clear that we didn't like it!

 

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Not sure you're reading what's up there.... 6 peeps in Dec of '17 seems very feasible.... 2706 throughout the year....

 

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Barely any VWs are selling here these days.....

https://www.autoevolution.com/pdf/news_attachements/unimpressive-volkswagen-of-america-2022-sales-numbers-released-207857.pdf

 

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The only regret I have with my Treg is that I wished I'd got one in a bit better condition but for $13k cdn what do you expect.

You could easily flip it and get yourself a "better" specimen.... especially since you're able to fix stuff that makes most owners spin in circles.... just sayin...

 

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How much of that was related/due to dieselgate?

Dieselgate wasn't a thing with Golf R from what I know... so "zero".

 

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I'm sure there might've been some side effect, but I doubt that anyone that was shopping for a dirty diesel would've all of a sudden considered an R as they next best option..... but who knows.

 

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I'd rock (and could easily get by with) an e-golf or ID4 or whatever for my daily commute\routine\majority of needs..... they just aren't financially feasible so I stick with 2 ICE vehicles in the driveway instead.

 

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I could live with all that eco feel stuff.... I just can't see ROI on a 50k EV...... ever....

 

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I don't know what they go for, but I just looked up the entry level ID4 and it's 45k before tax.... no incentives over here either.... so that's 50k out the door...... and I'd still have slow charger if it even comes with one.... I couldn't look at it long enough to clarify if you get some normal plug in cord to charge for 30hrs at home or if you need to have $1k+ of dedicated charger installed on top, etc.

That kind of coin buys a lot of dino fuel at any price... and covers a lot of the other repairs that come with an ICE.

 

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Even if that rebate was still a thing.... rough 1 min calculations tell me I spend about $4k in fuel a year based on current prices\driving patterns\amounts over the last 4 years..... so even if we assume that I could charge the EV for free due to whatever, and having one would completely eliminate my diesel costs, it would still take me a full decade to break even.

No matter how liberal I try to be with my math, the EV never makes sense.... not at what it costs to get into it....

 

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Pretty sure it was more like $36k, and even back in the day when the incentives were around, it would've still taken over a decade for your typical driver to break even...... now, if you don't already have a vehicle, and need to get into one regardless, the math looks a lot better.... or if you drive way more than the average bear but still within the EV's typical range...... there's a lot to consider

Review: 2017 Volkswagen e-Golf | Canadian Auto Review

Forget diesels or gasoline, this is the Golf to get. By: Calvin Chan | Canadian Auto Review

www.canadianautoreview.ca

 

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Get one.... up here, a used one can be had for 25k... maybe......
No solar panels on my house, and insufficient sun at night when I would be plugged in even if solar was there....
But even IF it did save me that $3k a year, I still need 8 years to break even before I start "saving" money... by then, the battery on it will be poo.....

Hard PASS for me.

 

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After 8 years? Lol not a chance.
Everything but the air cooled battery early leaf has a much much better BMS than that.

More like 14 or so, we were talking about grabbing a used early gen.