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i just registered on here (have been lingering for a while now to be honest lol). there is a touareg that im looking at, its 2004 but has a whopping 13700 miles = 220000 kms :(:(:(:(:(. i already know that the 2004 model year was not the best for touaregs and then buying a 2004 with such high mileage seems like a big no no....but i LOVE THEMMMMM like ALOOOOOT hahahah. being a student at the moment i obviously don't have thousands rolling around for repairs so i don't want to get in way over my head but my parents will help me with more minor repairs. what is your opinions? lets say i can get it for really cheap, is changing the engine out a feasible option? should i just stay the heck away from it?. i really value all your opinions and knowledge and i hope to have a touareg sometime soon. on a side note, can anyone tell me how much worse the v8 treg is compared to the v6 treg on gasoline? i really like the options on the 2008 but im kinda scared of th gas mileage.

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there is a touareg that im looking at, its 2004 but has a whopping 13700 miles = 220000 kms
13,000 miles isn't too bad :)

Obviously, we cannot tell you whether that specific Touareg will perform strongly to its death or be a money pit 'til the end. Confidently, I can say buying a high mileage 2004 is only asking for trouble. If you can, get the 2008. There's no change in MPG; if anything, it improved.

Good luck and if you are truly fixated with Touaregs, look for something newer with less miles.
 

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06 lots of the bugs were worked out by then and the T2 was about finished on the drawing table so reliability is alot better.
 

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hahah whoops.....meant 137000 miles lol, big difference. yeah i agree that im way better off getting a newer model. like at least 2005 or more. oddly enough 2006 touaregs seem to be kinda rare here. im going to see if i can find a good deal on one in the states and then import it in. kinda nervous about the whole import procedure although my brother has done it successfully before. yeah i think im set on getting at least 2005 (where all the bugs have been worked out) or newer or possibly a 2004 with really low mileage. i'll have to wait and see what happens. oh and "fixated on a touareg" does not even BEGIN to describe my addiction to this beautiful suv. its even nicer than the porsche cayenne IMHO.
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I'll be blunt.

This is not a car for a student with limited means to purchase.

Touaregs can be VERY expensive to repair and the higher the mileage the more likely something big may fail.

Your parents clearly have no idea of the potential costs involved.

It is totally unrealistic to talk of swapping different engines - you obviously do not understand the complexity of these cars.

Okay, so I've rained all over your parade. I'm sorry, but you need a common sense check here. Go and find a car you can actually afford to run and then, when you are earning some good money, have another look at the Touareg.
 

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I don't know, I must be a rare person. I like the Cayennes as much as the Touaregs. I can't for the life of me though understand those grab handles on the earlier ones on the center console. Never made sense to me. I am not sure if that continued on the newer ones or not, but I did not like that about the interior of the Cayenne.
 

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Yes, I like the Cayenne. [Well someone has to!]
 

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hahah LOtouareg i feel the love. i dont think the cayenne is ugly at all (well maybe a little).....but i think the design is a bit too radical for me but then again that is porsche design. i really dont like the front of the porsche at all. the rest of it is not bad at all. noobytoogy i can totally see where you coming from and honestly i appreciate you being blunt with me. i want someone who has a touareg to be straight up and honest with me about costs and such. the only thing here is that im mostly questioning the reliability of the touareg. the only reason funds are limited is because its my first car and im not going to go out and buy a 20000+ car for a first car(i think most of us can agree that a first car is meant to be a training car) but with that being said i totally understand that the cost of repairing a touareg is not something to be taken lightly either. my dad has had and has been fixing many many cars over the years so by saying my parents have no idea about the costs involved is a little insulting. also where does common sense come into play here? if i go out and ring someones doorbell and ask them about the maintnance costs of a touareg they will know? like i said before i do appreciate someone being blunt but there are other ways of being blunt if you know what i mean. i totally agree yeti, a couple days ago i was sitting in my cousins cayenne and i spent 10 minutes trying to understand what the heck they were. and i wasnt impressed by the interior at all.
 

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This isn't about being rude - it's about being realistic.

Have you asked if your Dad will pay out for a new $8000 engine or gearbox because that is what they cost?

Your Dad may have been fixing cars for years but there are VW technicians who, despite having been on the training courses and having the correct VW diagnostic equipment and tools, still have problems fixing these complex cars!!

Touaregs can be unreliable just any other car and there is no cast iron way of working out which high miler is going to carry on without any problems and which one won't.

It's a simple fact of life that the higher the mileage, the greater the wear, and the greater the wear, the sooner and more likely something will break.

These were $50,000 cars at the outset and were expensive to fix when new.

Just because they are older doesn't make them any cheaper to fix.

Unlike some marques where 3rd parties make cheaper parts, the Touareg has not been made in sufficient numbers so, in the main, you have to buy VW parts.

Unlike other marques, there isn't the number of specialists you can go to to get work done more cheaply than a dealer so, again, for complex repairs you are looking at paying main dealer rates and they aren't cheap.

Don't shoot the messenger just because you don't like the message!
 

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This isn't about being rude - it's about being realistic.

Have you asked if your Dad will pay out for a new $8000 engine or gearbox because that is what they cost?

Your Dad may have been fixing cars for years but there are VW technicians who, despite having been on the training courses and having the correct VW diagnostic equipment and tools, still have problems fixing these complex cars!!

Touaregs can be unreliable just any other car and there is no cast iron way of working out which high miler is going to carry on without any problems and which one won't.

It's a simple fact of life that the higher the mileage, the greater the wear, and the greater the wear, the sooner and more likely something will break.

These were $50,000 cars at the outset and were expensive to fix when new.

Just because they are older doesn't make them any cheaper to fix.

Unlike some marques where 3rd parties make cheaper parts, the Touareg has not been made in sufficient numbers so, in the main, you have to buy VW parts.

Unlike other marques, there isn't the number of specialists you can go to to get work done more cheaply than a dealer so, again, for complex repairs you are looking at paying main dealer rates and they aren't cheap.

Don't shoot the messenger just because you don't like the message!

your right, 100% right. your even doing me a favor by telling me how it is and i would say even looking out for my best interest which i thank you for. i obviously need to rethink my choice of even getting a touareg. im not buying that touareg with the extremely high mileage because that part would be common sense about high mileage equalling many things breaking down. i have no issue doing a few hundred to a thousand dollar fixes every once in a while but i don't want to get stuck doing those fixes every month. about the engine, i was only asking it that was a feasible option and obviously it is not. im going to have a talk with my parents and see what they say about this. every car does need to have these kind of fixes here and ther so i understand that. lets say i got a touareg with 12000kms - 150000 kms, without any problems at all. is that still not a good idea? keep in mind i only plan on using it to drive from home to school (5-20 minute drive) 4 times a week and just a few other drives here and there. very minor driving. i do value your opinions and i dont mean to shoot anyone lol.
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There's nothing wrong with being ambitious and having aspirations: indeed there'd be something wrong if you didn't! At the risk of sounding like your grandfather, it is how you balance it all without tripping yourself up along the way that's the trick to life.

My own son, at 17, started with a very cheap old Land Rover which he did some work on whilst he had it and he sold for a nice little profit 4 years later.

In the meantime he had worked very hard during holidays, saved quite a lot of money and, on his 21st birthday, was able to buy himself an old Range Rover.

On his first long trip there was a problem with the ABS system which cost the equivalent of $1,000 and I paid because I knew he would be stretched!

So I've kind of been there, done that, and got the T-shirt!!

In fairness, thereafter he paid his own bills but none were more than about the equivalent of $500-600 so perhaps both he - and I - were lucky.

All I can advise is what I've said before - there is no guarantee with any car.

If you spend a few evenings getting up to speed on here you will see that even people who have bought brand new cars are having major problems - but at least they have their VW warranty and should be able to get them fixed.

But perhaps the clue is in your comment about coping with up to $1,000 fixes "once in a while": the Touareg can very easily blow straight past that.

So why not spend some time looking at some other cars where $1,000 can get one hell of a lot more work done and where the mechanics and electronics might be easier for Dad - and you - to work on?

The Touareg can still be something you can aspire to when you've worked hard at college and got yourself a good job afterwards.

Good luck.
 

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hahaha LOtouareg thats funny. i would never in my life get near a prius or even for a fraction of a second consider it.....IMHO its one of the UGLIEST MOST HIDEOUS cars on the market. honestly noobytoogy your a really stand up guy and you have a boat load of common sense and wisdom. i like your thinking lol. im going to have to get my priorities in check and i dont work. my parents are buying me the car so im not worried about that part but im not a spoiled brat and i dont want to put a huge load on their shoulders everytime i have a huge fix here and there. if i did get a job (this is my first year of university so i dont know if i'll have time for that) then i might consider getting a touareg. i have no other responsibilities and i wont for a long time (still 17 and am told that im not allowed to leave the house till im 24++ so not worried about much) i could always stick with another cheaper brand of suv for now like a ford escape or a kia sorento.....something along those lines until i can afford a touareg. man reality can suck sometimes loooool but i'd rather learn now than later......i could always convince my dad to buy a touareg for himself. that way its his and i can use it here and there hahah
 

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:D The last idea is the best yet - Dad becomes a Tregger and you just "borrow" it. You should take psychology. Anyway, like I said, good luck!
 

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:D The last idea is the best yet - Dad becomes a Tregger and you just "borrow" it. You should take psychology. Anyway, like I said, good luck!

hahah thank you, have been told that many many times. considered it for a while too. and thank you i really appreciate it!!!
 

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There's nothing wrong with being ambitious and having aspirations: indeed there'd be something wrong if you didn't! At the risk of sounding like your grandfather, it is how you balance it all without tripping yourself up along the way that's the trick to life.

My own son, at 17, started with a very cheap old Land Rover which he did some work on whilst he had it and he sold for a nice little profit 4 years later.

In the meantime he had worked very hard during holidays, saved quite a lot of money and, on his 21st birthday, was able to buy himself an old Range Rover.

On his first long trip there was a problem with the ABS system which cost the equivalent of $1,000 and I paid because I knew he would be stretched!

So I've kind of been there, done that, and got the T-shirt!!

In fairness, thereafter he paid his own bills but none were more than about the equivalent of $500-600 so perhaps both he - and I - were lucky.

All I can advise is what I've said before - there is no guarantee with any car.

If you spend a few evenings getting up to speed on here you will see that even people who have bought brand new cars are having major problems - but at least they have their VW warranty and should be able to get them fixed.

But perhaps the clue is in your comment about coping with up to $1,000 fixes "once in a while": the Touareg can very easily blow straight past that.

So why not spend some time looking at some other cars where $1,000 can get one hell of a lot more work done and where the mechanics and electronics might be easier for Dad - and you - to work on?

The Touareg can still be something you can aspire to when you've worked hard at college and got yourself a good job afterwards.

Good luck.
For some reason, I felt that to be very heart-warming.
 
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