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Took my 2005 Touareg (116,000mi) in for a brake inspection this morning and was told I need new brake pads and sensors on both the front and the back...

I last had the front pads and sensors replaced 15,000mi ago and the back pads, sensors and rotors replaced 25,000mi ago.

I know the Touareg is a heavy vehicle and the fact that I drive the 405/Sepulveda pass daily puts a good deal of stress on the brakes, but do these intervals seem rather short to anyone else?
 

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Zimmerman and Good Pads!!!

Do Less Braking and More MOBBIN'!!
Get a good combination of things... it should be the reverse.
The rear should go out faster... I am not sure what kind of brake proportioning we can do with these brakes-- I considered it on my Lowered Gti . .. :-k
 

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Took my 2005 Touareg (116,000mi) in for a brake inspection this morning and was told I need new brake pads and sensors on both the front and the back...

I last had the front pads and sensors replaced 15,000mi ago and the back pads, sensors and rotors replaced 25,000mi ago.

I know the Touareg is a heavy vehicle and the fact that I drive the 405/Sepulveda pass daily puts a good deal of stress on the brakes, but do these intervals seem rather short to anyone else?
Have your sensors gone off? Many on here don't replace pads until the sensors go off. I think you may be being taken for a ride...
 

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Man how hard is it? Make a visual-- I can see mine are getting close but nowhere near scraping rotors. Look for yourself-- even if you have to take a wheel off or two!
Worth it ... Take it from Schrickie!!
 

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If the brake pad warning light isn't on, your brakes don't need replacing.

When it does come on you have at least 2,000 miles to source the replacement.

Thereare loads of threads on here on how to save money when you do need to put new rotors and pads on [mostly by not going to a VW dealer!].
 

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NoobyToogy my kind of thinker! Yes I would agree with the light on statement as long as there is no fault with the sensors themselves... which could be your only problem with your brakes, "could be"-- 2,000 miles? Ha...? Ok
 

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Yes, quite right ref sensors. There are some complete idiots who have disconnected them and then joined the wires together so the system doesn't warn anyone so they can carry on until metal meets metal. Not intelligent and incredibly unsafe.
 

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Do you ride your left foot on the brake. You see them all the time. People braking with their left foot and then do not release the brake fully

BY the way if there is a fault with the sensors the light would be on. The sensor is nothing but a circuit interupter
 

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Just to chime in on some of the above posts -

1) Rear Pads in "most" applications will wear much longer than the front pads. This is by design where brake bias is applied to a greater extent to the front for stopping power. You can also note the front calipers and pads are substantially larger to accommodate.

2) The type of brake pad and brake compound impacts brake pad wear. Especially when pads are installed at different times and the vendor/s doing such might use a different compound type on each axle. Also, if the brake rotors are not replaced when pads are they will add to faster brake pad wear.

3) Brake pad wear sensors are monitored by the warning system which does have a coding to be turned off - not monitored - if you determine your pads are really worn and your not getting a warning light you should get a dealer or someone with Vag-Com to look at the coding in the instrument cluster coding module.

4) Your pads will absolutely wear faster driving in mountainous conditions. I keep it in 4th gear going down some steep grades in Colorado and this keeps me from needing to use the brakes as much. I still see drivers with brakes on almost continuously all the way down the mountain (even up the mountain...LOL), I personally don't get it but some drivers feel a little constant pressure is best for these conditions...Last, obviously, if you use the two foot brake/gas pedal method you'll be applying the brakes when you don't think you are and this always leads to prematurely worn brake pads...BTW - very few ever admit to this driving style.
 

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I'm in Central California, my brake sensor went off this week... called dealer for prices on worst case scenario (front and rear rotors, pads, sensors, etc...)
Dealer quoted $1,600. Found a local "german" car specialist that quoted $1,100 for same work (all german manufactured parts)...
I'd do the work myself, but I've read all the posts about it, and I don't think I have the time to save a few hundred $. Does the $1,100 sound reasonable?
I've got 75,000 miles on my Treg...
 

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Took my 2005 Touareg (116,000mi) in for a brake inspection this morning and was told I need new brake pads and sensors on both the front and the back...

I last had the front pads and sensors replaced 15,000mi ago and the back pads, sensors and rotors replaced 25,000mi ago.

I know the Touareg is a heavy vehicle and the fact that I drive the 405/Sepulveda pass daily puts a good deal of stress on the brakes, but do these intervals seem rather short to anyone else?
I believe they weigh 5000 pounds. To help brake lightly and down shifting may assist in longer pad wear.
 

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Michaelkelly parts for the front and rears are around $650-700 and there is approx 4 hrs labour for pro mechanic. My parts estimate includes new breaks pins and associated hardware. As you are in southern CA suggest you get all the parts from http://www.bmaparts.com/ and take it to your mechanics. They are excellent vendor with top notch parts.
 

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I'm in Central California, my brake sensor went off this week... called dealer for prices on worst case scenario (front and rear rotors, pads, sensors, etc...)
Dealer quoted $1,600. Found a local "german" car specialist that quoted $1,100 for same work (all german manufactured parts)...
I'd do the work myself, but I've read all the posts about it, and I don't think I have the time to save a few hundred $. Does the $1,100 sound reasonable?
I've got 75,000 miles on my Treg...
Well you have saved $500 already, but you could save some more I suspect.

Just because the light is now on does not always mean you need all 4 rotors and new pads at the same time although a lot of Touaregs do seem to wear their brakes evenly.

I'd ask the "Germans" to have a look and show you what's what under the car and then make a decision on exactly what needs to be replaced now and what still has a useful service life.
 

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Michaelkelly parts for the front and rears are around $650-700 and there is approx 4 hrs labour for pro mechanic. My parts estimate includes new breaks pins and associated hardware. As you are in southern CA suggest you get all the parts from BMA Auto Parts | Bumper to Bumper since 1978 | Oem auto parts, vw parts, sachs boge, mercedes benz parts, honda auto parts, saab parts and take it to your mechanics. They are excellent vendor with top notch parts.
I must be a pro mechanic then. I had never done brakes before and I changed all 4 of them out in 95 degree heat on my garage floor.

On a lift and better tools I would say two hours tops.
Good replacement parts cost about $600 so $500 dollars for 2 hours of a mechanic = $250 an hour. Way too much imho.
Would not pay more than $200
 

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I'm in Central California, my brake sensor went off this week... called dealer for prices on worst case scenario (front and rear rotors, pads, sensors, etc...)
Dealer quoted $1,600. Found a local "german" car specialist that quoted $1,100 for same work (all german manufactured parts)...
I'd do the work myself, but I've read all the posts about it, and I don't think I have the time to save a few hundred $. Does the $1,100 sound reasonable?
I've got 75,000 miles on my Treg...
I think 75,000 miles on a set of front and rear brake pads and rotors is about the best mileage I have read in passing on this thread. I think if you got the oem equipment you would spend app 700. If you decide to do that then the real question would be how much would be charged for labor and like you say is that figure worth you doing it?
 

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I would agree that only replace the parts if the brake light comes on -- if the light works properly. ;)

I think the mileage is low, but still reasonable if you drive in hilly areas with a heavy truck like the Treg.

As far as the price goes, it depends on what parts the mechanic plans to use. If they are OEM VW (Brembo/Pagid) or good aftermarket brands like Zimmermann rotors (German TUV certified) and Pagid pads (makes OEM Brembo pads, made in Germany), the price would be slightly high but still reasonable, because he is going to be charging MSRP instead of what we pay online.

For example, rock bottom prices like major American brand brake pads that will not meet Euro R90 standards are only $60 front AND rear shipped (compared to $200 for R90 Pagid pads). Name brand rotors without anti-corrosion coatings are about $55 each (compared to $90 for Zimmermanns). 4 new pad sensors about $27. And that is about $310 for the "value" parts (that I will not use) shipped to your door. I would make sure the mechanic uses new caliper bolts, even if some will tell you this is not necessary. It is mentioned in the VW manual, and I did replace them.


Took my 2005 Touareg (116,000mi) in for a brake inspection this morning and was told I need new brake pads and sensors on both the front and the back...

I last had the front pads and sensors replaced 15,000mi ago and the back pads, sensors and rotors replaced 25,000mi ago.

I know the Touareg is a heavy vehicle and the fact that I drive the 405/Sepulveda pass daily puts a good deal of stress on the brakes, but do these intervals seem rather short to anyone else?
 

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Thanks to all that provided input.
I think I am capable of doing the work but the bottom line is the time... I don't have it... two little boys (3 & 1) at home, and the Treg is their main transport... precious cargo.
I called the shop owner... he was very forthcoming and honest. He does make a little $ on the parts and is charging me $188 per axle for the labor. So the parts come out to about in the $600 - 700 (including tax of 9%) range and he assured me that they are German name brand parts. I should have asked the name but didn't... He did let me know that I could probably go to another shop and get it done cheaper, but it would be cheaper parts/lesser quality and he won't install anything that a customer carries into him.
Based on your input, it sounds a tad on the high side, but I'm giving him the business... He's been there for almost 30 years, so he must be doing good work, and works on BMW/MBZ/VW/Audi/Porsche exclusively.
I'll let you know how it turns out, he's ordering the parts today and I'm dropping the Treg off on Friday... fingers crossed.
 

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Thanks to all that provided input.
I think I am capable of doing the work but the bottom line is the time... I don't have it... two little boys (3 & 1) at home, and the Treg is their main transport... precious cargo.
I called the shop owner... he was very forthcoming and honest. He does make a little $ on the parts and is charging me $188 per axle for the labor. So the parts come out to about in the $600 - 700 (including tax of 9%) range and he assured me that they are German name brand parts. I should have asked the name but didn't... He did let me know that I could probably go to another shop and get it done cheaper, but it would be cheaper parts/lesser quality and he won't install anything that a customer carries into him.
Based on your input, it sounds a tad on the high side, but I'm giving him the business... He's been there for almost 30 years, so he must be doing good work, and works on BMW/MBZ/VW/Audi/Porsche exclusively.
I'll let you know how it turns out, he's ordering the parts today and I'm dropping the Treg off on Friday... fingers crossed.
Basically he is billing 100 per position or app 1 hour each for a total of 4 hours shop time.
 

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That is very realistic particularly on rear ones. Now can you get exact part names - I mean type of rotors and pads mechanic will supply for us here to verify? Also don't forget NEW hardware and caliper bolts. Bolts are so cheap why risk it?
 
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