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Livin' the Dream ... pursuit of our zenith each in our way ....
 

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Hey ... an OT question - how many of you have a head unit w/o GPS since you have your phone with you most times? I'm starting at the end of the audio chain where the most improvement can be made thus I built the sub enclosure myself but I'll direct the rest through the audio specialist - conceptually I'm ready to ditch the GPS in the head-unit as I'm not concerned about resale.
 

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The GPS in the RNS 850 is pretty pitiful. Slow and not easy to use. Are you thinking about replacing the headunit?
 

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masterbaron and Brobb - 2 guys who know and appreciate good, clean sound. I'm with you guys just my wallet can't keep up these days.

Once was a time though when I'd spend considerable piles of cash on clean, crisp tunes. Still have some old trophies from competition days that I look at and think "if only I had ALL that money back" lol

I built some boxes for a guitar mate once and, after I'd loaded them up properly and gave them to him it renewed his enjoyment in the guitar cause he was hearing notes he'd never experienced properly before.

FWIW - 'glass can be made to produce clean bass but it takes a lot of work to stop it flexing (as you guys obviously know). It really comes down to the space you've got to work with. If you can't make a decent enclosure from mdf due to space, position, or shape limitations, then 'glass is your primary (secondary) go to. I had a BMW Z3 that had been the play thing of a rich woman. She'd thrown $30k into mods on it but it still had the standard stereo as it hadn't been built to listen to "that" music. With no real options for subs due to the location of the fuel tank at the back of the cockpit, we built a pair of enclosures that were moulded to fit under the seats with 8" subs pointing forward at the front. Your legs naturally sat over them so no interference. Some good quality splits and a decent pair of fill speakers capped it off nicely. You lost a little bit off the top when the roof came down (naturally) but it was clean, crisp, punchy, pure music with zero distortion all the way to max volume on the h/u. Properly matched components, amplified correctly are like magic. You know it's there you just can't figure out how it happened :)

@Tarpon I'll see what else I can dig up. If you can put up a pic of what your spare wheel well looks like that would help as yeah, we don't have that tank in our models.

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Thats awesome about the BMW Oz...that sounds like a nice machine and glad that the system sounds good. Wish I could hear it. Wish I was in OZ...LOL I agree with you on the fiberglass. Only option in the application i used. Its a solid box and seems to produce some pretty good quality sound.
 

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Absolutely ... and to be frank ... all info is good info for me because I haven't processed the Touareg debacle as yet ... such as the front mids in the door ... and backspace w/backplate ... wiring, etc - I'll admit at the moment I'm "green" as I'm an old head trying to ramp up quickly.
 

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Oz - Yes! Very helpful. Great job again coming up with cool info! One of these and one from your earlier post was really slick. I would buy one of those in a minute (from the high end install) if they were commercially available. I've actually contacted several of the people from the posts you've referenced to see if we might work something out.

I will take pics tomorrow of the trunk space and post them as you suggest to see if anyone has any ideas. Thanks again.
 

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@Tarpon - glad the info helped. I figured you'd reach out to those in the threads. might get you closer to a solution.

@Brobb - have been thinking all day "where did I put those old Z3 pics?" - Just remembered...

There's always space to use, you just have to get creative sometimes!

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System pushed 120db without raising a sweat and with a soft top.

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That thing was a bad ass m/f that I used to race against super bikes.

Sorry if the pics partly hijack the thread but once I found em I got nostalgic :)

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That Z3 is awesome. Never drove one but I bet it was like a gocart! I like the way you incorporated the speakers. That worked out well. Definitely no room in that little machine.
 

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Heck of a nice Z3! I'd love to drive that thing but not sure how I'd do shifting lefty! What year?

Here are picks of my wheel well and the side compartment.
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It looks like Troystg removed the panel in front of the spare as well for mounting his gear, but it doesn't look like there's depth for a sub there.
Servo subs for me... Both home and cars. I prefer a flat response from 20Hz to wherever I decide to stop it.

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Heck of a nice Z3! I'd love to drive that thing but not sure how I'd do shifting lefty! What year?

Here are picks of my wheel well and the side compartment.
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It looks like Troystg removed the panel in front of the spare as well for mounting his gear, but it doesn't look like there's depth for a sub there.

The panel in front of the spare? The rear deck pulls out and there is a ton of "free space" that is filled by the grey noise "fabric" in your picture... Grab both sides of the deck and pull straight out the back. It's tight the first time.

And here is a similar vehicle that he put in a small enclosure "next" to the wheel... He did a LOT of very good work...

 

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Thanks for the props :)

It definitely was a fun car but you had to respect it. 500hp in something that little made it a rocket powered rollerskate.

@Tarpon - from memory it was a '97 or '98 model. Been a while so little details fade. "Shifting lefty" haha I hear ya. I imported a 2004 LHD Mustang Cobra from the USA right after the Z3 and had it converted to RHD. Before they tore it apart the owner of the conversion shop asked me if I wanted to take it for a drive. I couldn't shift with my right hand to save my life :)

I found another thread which might give a different perspective. I did something similar to this in a Ford Explorer once (I had way more room but you get the idea) and, depending on how much bass you're searching for and/or clarity, fidelity, etc, this could be a workable option for you instead:


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Aaaannd, here's an offering from our friends in Poland. Their England not so good but "If you can't find on our auction product you're interested in contact us and we'll try to help you out". What's not to like there - friendly and helpful :)


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The panel in front of the spare? The rear deck pulls out and there is a ton of "free space" that is filled by the grey noise "fabric" in your picture... Grab both sides of the deck and pull straight out the back. It's tight the first time.

And here is a similar vehicle that he put in a small enclosure "next" to the wheel... He did a LOT of very good work...

Thanks for the info. Never knew the panel comes out but that really served you well. The install looks sharp!
I'm amazed at some of the installs like this one you show - makes me dizzy reading through it. Some talented people for sure.
 

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Aaaannd, here's an offering from our friends in Poland. Their England not so good but "If you can't find on our auction product you're interested in contact us and we'll try to help you out". What's not to like there - friendly and helpful :)


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Do you offer procurement services for other goods too? Like houses, jobs, who knows what else? Great find on the pre-fab enclosure for sure!

Another thought hit me in the head. I made a simple fly rod holder for my Touareg out of yoga blocks and a commercial rod holder. It's on Velcro and removeable. So I thought - replace the bottom part with a sub and put some type of foam block on top (or this commercial one) to hold the rods. It would need to be removeable but that can't be hard.
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Procurement services are my speciality :cool:

I've put people into cars, houses, jobs, boats....now if only I could figure out how to get paid for it!!

Nice rod holder by the way - where do the fish go or are they optional? It is fishing after all lol

If you were going down the removable route then your options are endless. In my Ford Explorer I used to have I had 2 12" subs, each in their own removable enclosure that I could connect / disconnect to a hidden amp. They slotted in side by side in the gap in front of the 3rd row seat. When you put the seats down and closed over the gap with the factory panel you couldn't see them and they were fully protected.

Down Under, these compact boxes are affectionately known as "ute sub boxes" because a lot of guys with dual cab utes (smaller that your pickup trucks) put them in behind the seats without the need to mod anything permanently. I'm sure they'd be common your way too.

If you wanted to get really fancy, you could mount a sub and amp in a box, hookup using an Anderson Lead connectors, and have a "lift in / lift out" solution that would be pretty effective. A bit of velcro on the front and it would even stich to the back of the reads seats.

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The fish go back in the water - as in catch and release!
People make good money around here finding things for others, particularly real estate.
As far as removable subs go, it seems like a no brainer for me. What are the drawbacks, if any?
And the rod holder sticks to the floor and the back of the rear seats with heavy duty Velcro like you mention.
 

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I need to come to your town then. You'd probably get me onto the sub box as a first job :)

If it's going to be portable the main thing is it needs to be solid as anything that takes away from the sub doing it's job = less output.

You could go with something like this:
TS-SWX251 - 10" Preloaded Shallow-Mount Component Subwoofer Enclosure (not avail anymore so might find a runout model cheap)


You could either do a matching box next to a single sub for the amp or have 2 sub boxes and mount an amp underneath out of sight with just the speaker cables coming up each side.

2 Subs plus an amp for $650 plus some install time would give you a good solution that you could move out of the way if need be.

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I need to come to your town then. You'd probably get me onto the sub box as a first job :)

If it's going to be portable the main thing is it needs to be solid as anything that takes away from the sub doing it's job = less output.

You could go with something like this:
TS-SWX251 - 10" Preloaded Shallow-Mount Component Subwoofer Enclosure (not avail anymore so might find a runout model cheap)


You could either do a matching box next to a single sub for the amp or have 2 sub boxes and mount an amp underneath out of sight with just the speaker cables coming up each side.

2 Subs plus an amp for $650 plus some install time would give you a good solution that you could move out of the way if need be.

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Ok you're hired! Bit of a commute though.
Those boxes look great - I can picture the rod holder working beautifully on top.
As far as the amp goes, I have bought a Match dsp from another member here and it's on the way. The plan was to mount it either under the spare tire well or in the side panel like others here have done.
I'll be bringing it to a pro to do the installation as I don't want to learn on the job with this project.
 

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Packs Bags.....

Yeah, I would hand it over to someone to do the cabling. As I said, the subs in my Explorer were plug / unplug at the drop of a hat so if I needed the space it was available, otherwise tunes were the order of the day. Those compact subs are pretty punchy and I think you're gonna be pretty happy once it's done.

Now...waiting for photos :)

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