Club Touareg Forum banner
1 - 20 of 196 Posts

·
Touareg Brake Specialist
2004 V6 w/package 1 and HID, bought 10/03
Joined
·
947 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
Hello, fellow Touareg owners!
Front or Rear Caliper Hardware kits are now stocked at a fraction of the dealer's price!
Front and Rear brake wear sensors are now in stock for immediate delivery at the lowest prices in the market!

I am offering the Italian made front rotors and Wagner Thermo-Quiet pads, all available in 1 to 3 days ex my facility or drop shipped from the factory in various locales cross country.

Two front rotors for any USA spec Touareg and front pads delivered in most states is $260.00 !! ($10 freight surcharge applies in Mountain states and Texas.)

I am offering the Italian made rear rotors and Wagner Thermo-Quiet pads or AIMCO Super Premium pads for $220 delivered nationwide. (Freight surcharge by locale as above.)

V6 or V8 brakes are all at the same price (V10 front pads add $5) - choose the AIMCO Super Premium front pads for a $25 upcharge. All items are fully inspected prior to shipping to insure you get 100% perfect parts!

Pads are available separately, but when these pads wear out, the rotors are designed to go along with them. Wear tolerances on Brembo engineered brake systems are quite tight. If you can feel a noticeable lip at the edge of your rotor, this is probably equal to or more than the one millimeter allowance per facing...

Finally, I have sourced the front and rear caliper hardware parts and am able to offer these at a fraction of the cost for the VW kits, 7L0-698-269 (rear) and 7L0-698-269A (front) - VW asks more than $39 for rear and $59 for front axle kits!! However, my kits contain the same contents, two each pad retention bolt and pad spreader clip (anti-rattle clip) plus locks. These are designed to wearout with the pads and lose spring tension and distort with use/age of the system. Replacement is always a wise choice because the parts must be handled in any event to replace the pads, and also to renew otherwise rusted and scored surfaces... now imagine all this for $15 front and $10 rear per axle kit!!! These prices are offered in part as added incentive to clients who purchase axle brake packages. (Separate sales will be higher).

I have finally secured a direct import source to provide the OE brake wear sensors which need to be replaced with each brake job - they are so fragile! The front sensors are $12 each and the rears are $11 each when purchased with an axle package - now the entire hardware to perform brake service is available at best-in-class prices from our one source!

I have sold quite a number of these kits and folks have agreed that the quality is excellent and the performance is as to be expected for new brakes! (Numerous testimonials are available online) Plus this is a fraction of the dealer's prices...

Contact me for any details or to place any order! Hours 8:30am-5:30pm weekdays or by email anytime!

Italian manufacture front rotors exactly like OEM
Wagner Thermo-Quiet front pads
AIMCO Super Premium front & rear pads

Regards,

Geoff Rosenberg
President
Alretta Truck Parts Inc.

owner, 2004 Touareg V6 Reed Green
 

·
Touareg Brake Specialist
2004 V6 w/package 1 and HID, bought 10/03
Joined
·
947 Posts
Discussion Starter · #3 ·
R5 is a breed apart here in North America

Sorry Matthew!

The R5 is a European/non-US spec vehicle. There is no intel on it here and no parts listings. I imagine the Aussie aftermarket can support you best - try your spares houses downunder and see what they can offer.

Good Luck!

Geoff
 

·
Touareg Brake Specialist
2004 V6 w/package 1 and HID, bought 10/03
Joined
·
947 Posts
Discussion Starter · #7 ·
Rear rotors coming - at the port in Italy

Finally, the Italians are coming back to work after winning the World Cup!

So the rear rotors are at the port in Italy awaiting transport to the US and should be here by August 1st.

That's all the news, no pricing yet...

Can't wait to see these boys troop thru the door!!

Thank you all for your continuing support!

Regards,

Geoff
 

·
Touareg Brake Specialist
2004 V6 w/package 1 and HID, bought 10/03
Joined
·
947 Posts
Discussion Starter · #10 ·
Re: Replacing pads (and rotors)

xelint said:
The dealer says that I need new front pads ($495 charge) will I need rotors as well?

Thanks
Based upon design and tight minimum thickness tolerances, the answer is an almost certain yes. These rotors are designed to offer only two millimeters of wear surface and if the edge lip created by the pad action feels like it is a millimeter (two faces), then you are already there! (stick your hand through the spokes after the rotor has cooled and feel the edge - you'll know intuitively.)

I understand that VW recommends rotor replacement under all circumstances requiring brake pad replacement, so am a bit surprised that the dealer is only quoting you pads on a vehicle with how many miles? 25K, 30K, 35K +? That is not like the reports I have seen here and elsewhere. Frankly, I would expect the dealer to call you the day of the work and 'extract' your wallet for the additional expense with a report of rotors needed now while doing the job. This unkind tactic is not unusual.

Regards,

Geoff
 

·
Touareg Brake Specialist
2004 V6 w/package 1 and HID, bought 10/03
Joined
·
947 Posts
Discussion Starter · #11 ·
Rotor and Pad redux

alboogiee said:
Q - two questions since i know i am going to be odering in a few months...

1. Have the rear rotors arrived yet?

2. What is the differance between the AIMCO Super Premium vs. Wagner Thermo-Quiet pads, i know it's only $25, but noise/squeal is a big problem with the way my wife drives, so what are the benifits to each.

thanks,

Alex
Alex -

The rear rotors are due very soon, during August, and am awaiting word. The Italians won the World Cup over a month ago (?) and so the parts should be here.... soon... (OY!)

Frankly, the difference between the brake pads offered by these two manufacturers revolves around proprietary formulations and price points for their market strategies. The parts do not really cost that much to make, after all. AIMCO offers two gas slots in their pad and Wagner has only molded one. The AIMCO pad is in stock at the moment and the Wagner is not ... AIMCO has provided better packaging and better end finish to their product than Wagner. This is a lot about your feelings for the companies that you buy products from - AIMCO is another brand name for the parent company of Raybestos, for example.

I favor the AIMCO product presently, so have stocked this into the warehouse. Wagner is just a phone call away, however. Noise should not be an issue with either product. AIMCO and Wagner both contain all OE features including chamfered edges and constrained layer noise supressant shims. Today, noise is largely a function of the quality and thoroughness of the repair techs labors - if surfaces that mate are not properly cleaned resonance frequencies are more likely to be heard, etc.

Now, this brings up an opportunity to address a thread that is playing on that 'other' Touareg site. There has been some talk about ceramic pads and I want to dispel the notion that this is even desirable for the Touareg.

Frankly, ceramics are nice in the aftermarket for lighter vehicles (smallish Japanese cars) and folks that are inordinately concerned about wheel dust to the detriment of any other concern. But if the German manufacturers wanted to make ceramic formula brake pads for OE, they'd do so! Voila! You would have them on this vehicle if those engineers thought they would be the way to go.

But they don't feel that way, do they?

In fact, the Touareg has a high-performance Brembo brake system with 6 piston calipers that needs to rock crawl over 6000 pounds up and down grades, etc. with absolute precision and only the carbon-fiber-binder brake pads will give the vehicle the edge here. So that is the reason VW installs them. Visualize all the different terrains VW designed the Touareg to drive into and then you will see the need for the aggressive brake design. Stick with what is a proven winner unless you feel the need to experiment.

As for the wheel dust, wash as needed and wax the finish on the wheels to prevent the dust from damaging the finish. This is the VW recommendation. I have simply used my local brushless car wash faithfully since new, about every three weeks or so, and the finish is unsworled and the wheels are like new (no curb damages!) Of course, a book of five washes costs $65...

Someone has gone ahead and had their calipers custom powder coated and this has created a stir. Well, my vendor, Wagner, has a program to offer black, red, or yellow powder coated calipers. I will inquire for anyone that wants to have their calipers professionally done as to the costs - it would require the caliper to be rebuilt completely, as powder coating would be done only to a disassembled casting. It would certainly take three to four business days at the factory as well. Let me know!

BTW, Brembo has multiple color schemes to designate different grades of braking action or systems, so our Touaregs are meant to be dark gray or black in color, not yellow or red. Who am I to judge if you feel the need to dress up?

Finally, Centric brand is mentioned on that other site. Centric is a recent player to the automotive aftermarket and represents off shore manufacturing, ie, China, mostly. The details that are mentioned on their website for their rotors are exactly like the Italians except for the electrostatic hub coatings, which is really playing dress up. Mill balancing is featured on our parts and non-directional finishes and all other OEM details. Which is what you should expect from our parts... so Centric has nothing strategic to offer that provides technological innovation, which is what all this verbiage is meant to convey.

Frankly, these are just standard North American-European industry practices today, enumerated to make it all sound good.

Don't be fooled into thinking the Kool-Aid is really there to quench your thirst...remember, the little mouse "Savoir-Faire" is Everywhere!

Bon Mot!

Geoff
 

·
Touareg Brake Specialist
2004 V6 w/package 1 and HID, bought 10/03
Joined
·
947 Posts
Discussion Starter · #13 ·
Re: hi i need some help and some info please

goodkup said:
I have Touareg V6 2005 with 18000 mile and i got the break pads warning for month ago i have some question and some help from you.

Q1 how much for the Pads,rotor and sensor ?

Q2 do you have the cross drill rotor in stock?

Q3 if I wont change my break with the dealer are they going to have any
problem to my warranty <my>

Q4 If its possible if I wont change my rotor?

thank you so much for your help
Goodkup -

You are certainly ahead of the use curve here. 18K is as low as anyone else I have spoken to or read about. Ouch!

If you live in SF proper and especially drive those hilly streets exclusively, then I suppose it's possible to be at the front of the class.

I currently have in stock both the pads from AIMCO and Wagner, so I can offer the $260 or $285 packages for you delivered freight inclusive. That is for the front brakes. I also have a rear brake option for another $50 for the pads alone. I do not offer the sensors but any dealer has them for $16-17 each.

Rear rotors are still awaiting. Checked on this this week - can't wait to receive them! No further date detail other than in transit from the factory...

Your warranty coverage is not at issue whatsoever. That is guaranteed under the federal Moss-Magnuson act, enacted over thirty years ago by the US Congress. The use of replacement parts can not void a manufacturer's warranty unless the manufacturer supplies the parts free of charge when needed. Anyone heard of VW stepping up to do that?

There are no drilled and slotted rotors for the VW thru me. I had one client who did have me ship parts to a cryogenics firm that would also gas slot the face for him. This seems unnecessary - are you planning to race your vehicle?

Finally, it does not seem possible that your rotor will not require changing if your pads are also worn down thru normal brake activities. Sorry...

Call me for any details.

Yours,

Geoff
 

·
Touareg Brake Specialist
2004 V6 w/package 1 and HID, bought 10/03
Joined
·
947 Posts
Discussion Starter · #15 ·
Rear rotors are now available

Thank goodness that the Italians are over their World Cup fever!

The rear rotors are here at last - and all the details are at the top of the page in the initial post, which has been updated.

Please see above!

Thank you for your continued support - I appreciate each and every one of the clients I have been able to serve and all their patience with my pedantic ways - service takes its time!

Regards,

Geoff
 

·
Touareg Brake Specialist
2004 V6 w/package 1 and HID, bought 10/03
Joined
·
947 Posts
Discussion Starter · #17 ·
Isgro said:
Hi Geoff,

I am not in need of your products yet but I did have a quick question for you. I'm actually very close to where you are located (I work at the Staples Corporate office in Framingham). My question to you is, when the time comes when I do need to replace my brakes can I come to your facility to purchase the parts? Will the price be cheaper if I were to come directly to you instead of having them shipped? Let me know.

Thanks,
Matt
Matt -

Absolutely, I can save you freight on these parts, but Governor Romney (or Gov. Patrick) will expect to get his cut, so these two factors will somewhat cancel each other out...but shipping will still incur tax in Mass. so a pickup is your best option, I am less than 5 miles from you!

I will look forward to your next brake job, then!

:giggle:

Geoff
 

·
Touareg Brake Specialist
2004 V6 w/package 1 and HID, bought 10/03
Joined
·
947 Posts
Discussion Starter · #20 ·
What's an EFU? Ohhh...

efu said:
How much would it cost for me to get a pair of front and rear rotors with out the brake pads?
Thanks
Dear efu,

Please give me a phone call at the warehouse at your convenience and I would be happy to quote price and delivery to your location. This is the best way for me to handle this, as I do not know where you are located.

Call me at the number below, even Saturday would be ok during the day.

Regards,

Geoff
 

·
Touareg Brake Specialist
2004 V6 w/package 1 and HID, bought 10/03
Joined
·
947 Posts
Discussion Starter · #32 ·
Caliper support and Pad Retention hardware now available!

Dear Fellow Touareg owners,

Starting today, I am making available the caliper retention pins/bolts and lock nut and the pad anti-rattle clips just like the OE kits, 7L0-698-269 (rear) or -269A (front), for a fraction of VW's price or anyone's prices!

Please see the first posting in this thread for full details!

Now one more piece of the complete brake service package can be offered at unbeatable prices - all this for $15 front or $10 rear per Axle Kit when purchased with an axle brake package.

Wear sensors are also being sourced as a future available item - stay tuned!

Thank you all for your interest and patronage! Let's keep the dealer's guessing...

Geoff
 

·
Touareg Brake Specialist
2004 V6 w/package 1 and HID, bought 10/03
Joined
·
947 Posts
Discussion Starter · #48 ·
Rotor bolts? I will need to look into that

I will need to see if I can supply the rotor attaching bolts.

Not sure if I can source them, but I will ask.

Please give me some time to research this though. How much do they cost folks?

I am ready to offer the necessary special tool bits, however. See the posting today in the General Discussion forum for more.

Thank you!

Geoff
 

·
Touareg Brake Specialist
2004 V6 w/package 1 and HID, bought 10/03
Joined
·
947 Posts
Discussion Starter · #49 ·
Rotor attaching bolts now available!

Folks,

The rotor attaching bolts will now be in stock and available for $5.00 per axle set of two. These will be most welcome to owners in the rust belt states where all manner of oxidation occurs! OE parts delivered when you need them!

Now instead of a trip to the dealer for these small parts, I will have ample inventory to always make them available to anyone buying a brake kit.

I expect to offer the 16mm triple square and 5mm triple square socket bits in the very near future for $7 per bit. A tamper proof 16mm bit for use on the oil pan drain plug as well as the caliper bolts would be $9 each. (Features a hole in the center of the bit.)

Our latest improvement to what is certainly the best brake kit!

(Please let me know if anyone has additional suggestions for related items.)

Thank you to everyone who has made it a point to offer their two cents!

Regards,

Geoff
 

·
Touareg Brake Specialist
2004 V6 w/package 1 and HID, bought 10/03
Joined
·
947 Posts
Discussion Starter · #60 ·
Total shipping weight is two cartons, 110 lbs.

Igor, is that you?

Got your email... have your wife get in touch with me by phone to discuss or to order parts??

Thank you,

Geoff
 

·
Touareg Brake Specialist
2004 V6 w/package 1 and HID, bought 10/03
Joined
·
947 Posts
Discussion Starter · #62 ·
Notice of proposed price increases: 1st in 30 months!!

Hello, Fellow Touareg owners!

After a very long stretch of cost containment, finally due to the unprecedented rise of the Euro against the dollar, the cost of the our brake rotors is set to increase substantially as of Feb.1, 2008. Other components may follow in the months ahead, but only the rotors are affected at this time.

I am looking at a $55 increase in the cost of each front kit and a $75 increase in the cost of a 4 wheel kit. Why the fronts more than the rear? Well, I've asked the questions and we will have to wait to see if I get a good answer from the manufacturer...

Of course, UPS is also set to go higher with the new year as well, so I will need to assess and administer this when it is clear what is involved.

I want to take the opportunity to thank everyone who has purchased a brake package from us for your patronage. Your interest in a thorough approach to restoring these world class brakes has lead us to provide the very best the industry has to offer in replacement parts. It is this dedication to quality that compels us to have to raise prices to match what is an unfortunate, but necessary cost increase on the part of our manufacturer who imports these parts against a clear cost disadvantage in the Euro/USD exchange.

I want to assure everyone that this is not an opportunity for us to increase our margins, but simply a needed response to enormous cost increases. I hope the manufacturer will respond to my entreaties to justify the variance in price increases between the front and rear rotors. But unless that happens, I am forced to accept the prices as presented. These are the best parts in the market and I do not want to offer any other substitute.

The good news is that recent review finds us literally hundreds of dollars ahead of our most complete mail-order rivals! A correct brake job involves all related parts, which we present to you as a kit, and not just a select few of them, which other suppliers may offer. All told, a complete 4 wheel kit was $290 more delivered from them than from us! Some difference... and the vehicle dealer is still higher than that!

I will keep this forum apprised of changes when and as they may occur so that folks can be informed to make fair and wise choices. We respect your rights and hope that you all will continue to consider ATP when it comes time to replace brakes on your Touareg.

Please feel free to call me for any reason or to discuss any aspect of this announcement. I intend to honor all orders placed through Jan. 31 at the old price structures.

Regards,

Geoff
 

·
Touareg Brake Specialist
2004 V6 w/package 1 and HID, bought 10/03
Joined
·
947 Posts
Discussion Starter · #64 ·
You didn't consider the whole issue...

Seems like the prices are high here. After reading threads a while back about $2000 front only pads and rotors jobs, I was scared. Then the sensor came on at 28k. Cost: Dealer pads and sensors (is the sensor really necessary - I guess you can't turn in a leased car with a sensor error) are 170+50 = 230 (sic) +tax and my reliable mechanic said he'd install the for 70. 300+tax is a pretty good deal. Thanks god the rotors are fine.
I assume we have not spoken, because if we had you would realize that you paid a lot of money for the parts you bought!

In the kit outlined here, the pads and front sensors cost $94 total, no tax except in MA., and the balance is for other necessary components. So you paid an extra $126, which would have paid for 1.3 brake rotors approximately in the kit described. In fact, the kit today is $306 plus the freight charges! This will increase due to the Euro/dollar exchange and other factors on Feb 1., but that will be the first actual increase in prices in 30 months! We have consistently added components to make the brake work complete and precise repair work for the DIYer or professional mechanic. That is the only reason the price has grown over this time.

The $2000 brake work was for a four wheel brake job, BTW. That is what the dealer would charge in many parts of the country. Clients for this brake kit have been able to do their complete four wheel brake work for half that amount with hired labor or less if done by themselves.

Yes, the sensor is necessary, especially if yours went off, as this indicates the sensors are damaged and no longer carrying an electrical current. The comment you made about your leased vehicle - well, if you are returning a leased vehicle shortly, sure, I can see why you wouldn't want to spend money on it for repairs, except the minimum. But if you are keeping the vehicle, then the full treatment is the only approach.

I also want to mention, that depending on the lease return inspection, it is conceivable that your not replacing the rotors would come back to haunt you, if the party receiving the vehicle back makes sense of what work you have done. Frankly, if the pads were worn down, so were the rotors, ipso facto, you haven't repaired correctly - that is the soft, white underbelly for your situation. The rotors are a soft material and the pads grind them down progressively as they wear. It's like A=B, B=C, then A=C in mathematics.

Please be aware that saying this brake package is expensive is simply not a fully considered answer in light of all the facts. I am available for discussion at my number below.

Regards,

Geoff :)
 

·
Touareg Brake Specialist
2004 V6 w/package 1 and HID, bought 10/03
Joined
·
947 Posts
Discussion Starter · #67 ·
Sensor light can mean any of the four corners - there are sensors at each of 8 brake plates! So it is tough to know where the damage is confined to, if that is the case, but on these vehicles, especially for the first brake work, one can expect to find fairly even brake wear. So one sensor tripping means the other axle sensor is not far away, nor should the other axle be too far behind, perhaps, 15% ? Recall that the tires wear fairly evenly front to back for the same general reasons.

The only sure answer is direct measurement and observation, which for the rotor involves measuring the disc to its lowest point and/or to the stage of its re-faced plane.

Your Infiniti uses a ceramic blend pad and is quite different in composition from the Touareg. Asian manufacturers have different design criteria to their brake systems, usually at the expense of absolute performance, unlike the Touareg, which is a shared platform with Porsche. Of note, the Inifiniti G35X with Brembo brakes does not use ceramic blend pads. There is a real difference between the operational brake characteristics of those two G35 models.

Regards,

Geoff
 

·
Touareg Brake Specialist
2004 V6 w/package 1 and HID, bought 10/03
Joined
·
947 Posts
Discussion Starter · #70 ·
Price increases now in effect - :(

After a very long stretch of cost containment, finally due to the unprecedented rise of the Euro against the dollar, the cost of the our brake rotors is set to increase substantially as of Feb.1, 2008. Other components may follow in the months ahead, but only the rotors are affected at this time.

I am looking at a $55 increase in the cost of each front kit and a $75 increase in the cost of a 4 wheel kit.

Please feel free to call me for any reason or to discuss any aspect of this announcement. I intend to honor all orders placed through Jan. 31 at the old price structures.

Regards,

Geoff

Just a brief follow up that, indeed, the brake kit prices have risen due to the increase in rotor costs, as announced here in Dec. There is no joy in raising prices which have basis in dollar/Euro exchange, and America has been on the downside of this valuation...

So effective with new orders placed after Jan. 31, front kits have a $55 increase to $361 plus UPS, Rear kits have an increase to $250 plus UPS, and UPS costs are quoted based upon your location (zip code). Orders can ship out of either California, Illinois, or Massachusetts based upon your address.

I will always try to minimize costs for shipping to any one, anyway I can.

As always, Thank you all very much for continued support!

Regards,

Geoff
 

·
Touareg Brake Specialist
2004 V6 w/package 1 and HID, bought 10/03
Joined
·
947 Posts
Discussion Starter · #76 ·
As far as I know, no one has posted a DIY for the rear brakes, as such. The process is similar to fronts from a caliper perspective, but then there is re-adjustment of the rear parking brakes to perform.

Geoff
 

·
Touareg Brake Specialist
2004 V6 w/package 1 and HID, bought 10/03
Joined
·
947 Posts
Discussion Starter · #81 ·
Hey, folks!

Just a brief update note -

Effective with orders shipping immediately, I will be including a single use packet of Silicone grease per axle for the caliper sliding surfaces, as I have discussed with many, many clients - Polysilicate lubricants are the state of the art in metal-on-metal contact under weather and temperature gradients.

I also need to sound a cautionary note for a price increase on June 1st. Rotor prices continue to climb, frankly, out of control, and so too will brake pad prices. As a result, I foresee another $70 increase on the cost of a four wheel brake kit. I am actively seeking alternative market sources to provide price relief without compromising quality and product integrity. Substituting Wagner brand brake pads would allow a $30 decrease on a four wheel kit, and I am looking for additional pad and rotor sources to cushion the upsurge, which I find impossible not to pass along. Between January and June, I will have experienced a 60% increase in rotor costs alone!

Thank you for your understanding and patience - I will certainly keep on top of cost-cutting options in my effort to bring ClubTouareg members the best parts at a truly wholesale price.

Regards,

Geoff
 
1 - 20 of 196 Posts
Top