"Throw crap and kids in" yup, that's why we have one, wife doesn't love it like she did the MB, it has been more reliable though. I used to joke the check engine light was a luxury feature and now everytime we drive by someone in a benz I joke I can see an orange reflection on their face. Back to the Atlas - with the 3rd row flat the boot is massive, the double bob stroller takes up the whole boot of the Touareg, lots of extra room in the Atlas. Dogs are cramped in the back of the Touareg, room to roam in the Atlas, etc. The lack of the Touareg in NA has made room for the Q8. Also, the foam in seats in the Atlas seem to be more compressed from having car seats in it for the past year vs the Touareg seats that have had seats in it for 3+ years now.