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This post might just break this forum, as just about anyone I've ever met with a 3L TDI wants some sort of ability to check the potential doom of their timing chain skipping.

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Since there aren't too many users reporting values at the moment, I will keep updating the table for now to provide an easy to read reference.
UserEngineOdometer (k)Adaptation (º)START Rattle (Y/N)OCI (k)
SaVAGeSootCNRB93-4.15N10
buckwheatCNRB119-4.7Y10, 6.7
ToolmanJohnCNRB117-3.82N10
ATSToddCNRB159-4.92N10
SuprollaCATA152-1.5N7.5
DashParrCNRB209-2.97??
josiah47CATA120-2.3N10
ValveCoverGasketCATA126-2.07N10
Tyler ScalzoCNRB102-2.9?7.5
maintenance247CNRB119-2.59N7.5
yeti007CVVA59-3.86N8.5
BrendanmCRCA198-4.6Y10
iSagenCASA109-1.85N10
VaNSqLCATA135-0.86N6.2
GoldsburgCNRB137-5.0Y5
werdnaCNRB127-3.8N5
alfissimoCNRB83-4.48N?
renjean1CNRB157-4.83??
Lance_1CNRB230-5.16Y~10
20bugsysCATA104-4.15Y?
The following information is what I've learned from reading way too many posts on the subject.

I strongly suggest that anyone with the ability to post their own details contributes to this so that we can come up with some consensus of potential feasibility.

Here are my values.
CNRB with ~150k (km)
I don't have any noticeable rattle or noise concerns.
You want your engine warmish fully warmed up before taking the reading.
Address 01: Engine (7P0 907 401 K)

19:10:21
IDE00021 Engine RPM 713 /min
IDE00025 Coolant temperature 61º C
IDE00182 Camshaft adaptation intake bank 1: phase position -4.15º
IDE00196 Engine oil temperature 59.1º C
You're interested in the adaptation value. Ideally, it's zero, but as your chains wear, they will get noisy and once you get around -8 to -9 you can expect a failure. At that point you should have a significant amount of rattle, especially on cold startups.

People with short OCIs and quiet chains report being around the -5 value at about 100-120k miles.

Post your details and let's see if there's any truth to these rumours!
 

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Select engine controller, advanced measuring blocks, and select from the list the different blocks as per list above. Then hit save and copy/paste text from log file saved
 

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Go into advance measuring blocks and there should be a list with many IDExxxx that comes up. There is a search bar at the top where you can type the number as shown in my log or the word that interests you (for example camshaft)
Then you add checks besides each of values you want displayed.

Let me know if that works for you.
 

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Yes, on gassers you look at MVBs 91 and 93 or something for something like a 3deg spread... But no one cares because we are concerned with our oil burners instead.
 

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I believe that's where the descriptions would be pulled from.... so you may need to submit controller channel maps to VCDS as they ask users to contribute to their information in order to document everything properly. You can also see this if you have any saved autoscan results as it should list the label files (or the lack if them).
 

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Guys, if you only list partial information, it doesn't tell us much.
Need to know current milage.
Need to know adaptation value.
Need to know if you have rattle/noise.
 

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I pick my car up from the shop today or tomorrow. Mine definitely has a ~.25-.5 second rattle on turnover. 2016 TDI / 33K miles
On cold starts, you'll get that.... I wouldn't sweat it.
If it keeps up after the first initial few seconds, then I'd start paying attention to it and possibly checking the phase position more frequently. Either way, you've got lots of dieselgate warranty left over, so no need to stress over it much at this point.
 

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Added..... as an interesting side note, I'm seeing that we are all over the place with our "fully warmed up temps".
I don't know what the readings do as the engine warms up, so I will take another reading on mine when showing "fully warm" on temp gauge to see if it changes much.
 
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