[SaVAGeSoot]

This post might just break this forum, as just about anyone I've ever met with a 3L TDI wants some sort of ability to check the potential doom of their timing chain skipping.

Edit:
Since there aren't too many users reporting values at the moment, I will keep updating the table for now to provide an easy to read reference.

User	Engine	Odometer (k)	Adaptation (º)	START Rattle (Y/N)	OCI (k)
SaVAGeSoot	CNRB	93	-4.15	N	10
buckwheat	CNRB	119	-4.7	Y	10, 6.7
ToolmanJohn	CNRB	117	-3.82	N	10
ATSTodd	CNRB	159	-4.92	N	10
Suprolla	CATA	152	-1.5	N	7.5
DashParr	CNRB	209	-2.97	?	?
josiah47	CATA	120	-2.3	N	10
ValveCoverGasket	CATA	126	-2.07	N	10
Tyler Scalzo	CNRB	102	-2.9	?	7.5
maintenance247	CNRB	119	-2.59	N	7.5
yeti007	CVVA	59	-3.86	N	8.5
Brendanm	CRCA	198	-4.6	Y	10
iSagen	CASA	109	-1.85	N	10
VaNSqL	CATA	135	-0.86	N	6.2
Goldsburg	CNRB	137	-5.0	Y	5
werdna	CNRB	127	-3.8	N	5
alfissimo	CNRB	83	-4.48	N	?
renjean1	CNRB	157	-4.83	?	?
Lance_1	CNRB	230	-5.16	Y	~10
20bugsys	CATA	104	-4.15	Y	?
mickblouin84	CNRB	186	-15.1	N	?
DEZL_PWR	CNRB	55	-1.6	N	10
Sceep	CNRB	151	-5.12	N	10

The following information is what I've learned from reading way too many posts on the subject.

I strongly suggest that anyone with the ability to post their own details contributes to this so that we can come up with some consensus of potential feasibility.

Here are my values.
CNRB with ~150k (km)
I don't have any noticeable rattle or noise concerns.
You want your engine warmish fully warmed up before taking the reading.

Address 01: Engine (7P0 907 401 K)

19:10:21
IDE00021 Engine RPM 713 /min
IDE00025 Coolant temperature 61º C
IDE00182 Camshaft adaptation intake bank 1: phase position -4.15º
IDE00196 Engine oil temperature 59.1º C

You're interested in the adaptation value. Ideally, it's zero, but as your chains wear, they will get noisy and once you get around -8 to -9 you can expect a failure. At that point you should have a significant amount of rattle, especially on cold startups.

People with short OCIs and quiet chains report being around the -5 value at about 100-120k miles.

Post your details and let's see if there's any truth to these rumours!

 

[Golf Wang]

Thank you for doing this. I look forward to posting mine when I get the car back from the body shop next week. Was rear ended 40 days after I bought the car🙄

 

[SaVAGeSoot]

Was rear ended 40 days after I bought the car🙄

That sucks.... sorry to hear. Hope you're OK (both physically and emotionally)

 

[SaVAGeSoot]

Anyone else out there with a TDI who wants to post their stats?

 

[alfissimo]

Anyone else out there with a TDI who wants to post their stats?

I will as soon as I can, maybe this weekend. 102K on mine for reference. On previous car 137K miles with no sign of chain stretch or any noise whatsoever but I never documented anything via Vag-com.

 

[alfissimo]

This post might just break this forum, as just about anyone I've ever met with a 3L TDI wants some sort of ability to check the potential doom of their timing chain skipping.

The following information is what I've learned from reading way too many posts on the subject.

I strongly suggest that anyone with the ability to post their own details contributes to this so that we can come up with some concencus of potential feasibility.

Here are my values.
CNRB with ~150k (km)
I don't have any noticeable rattle or noise concerns.
You want your engine warmish before taking the reading.


You're interested in the adaptation value. Ideally, it's zero, but as your chains wear, they will get noisy and once you get around -8 to -9 you can expect a failure. At that point you should have a significant amount of rattle, especially on cold startups.

People with short OCIs and quiet chains report being around the -5 value at about 100-120k miles.

Post your details and let's see if there's any truth to these rumors!

Remind how I read these? I have not used VAG-COm in so long I need some direction.

Thanks

 

[SaVAGeSoot]

Select engine controller, advanced measuring blocks, and select from the list the different blocks as per list above. Then hit save and copy/paste text from log file saved

 

[seafarer28]

I had a look at the measuring blocks information (3.0 CASA 7L) but can't see which block number gives this information?

Engine 3.0TDI V6 complete meas. block info for VCDS.

3.0TDI V6 '08 measure blocks for VCDS from the CASA engine. Group 1 Block 1 Engine speed Block 2 Injection quantity Block 3 Current rail pressure Block 4 Coolant temperature Group 2 Block 2 Pedal value sensor Block 3 Operating conditions Group 3 Block 2 Air mass specification Block 3 Current...

www.clubtouareg.com

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Mine is a CASA engine but this information should still be available, do you have the actual number of the measuring block to select?

TonyB

 

[SaVAGeSoot]

Go into advance measuring blocks and there should be a list with many IDExxxx that comes up. There is a search bar at the top where you can type the number as shown in my log or the word that interests you (for example camshaft)
Then you add checks besides each of values you want displayed.

Let me know if that works for you.

 

[SaVAGeSoot]

Ross-Tech: VCDS Tour - Advanced Measuring Values

 

[buckwheat]

-4.7 degrees
192,000km / 119,000 miles

 

[alfissimo]

Go into advance measuring blocks and there should be a list with many IDExxxx that comes up. There is a search bar at the top where you can type the number as shown in my log or the word that interests you (for example camshaft)
Then you add checks besides each of values you want displayed.

Let me know if that works for you.

I'll have a look tomorrow. I was in there but may have missed it.

 

[volkswagens-for-life]

It's common to use vag com with the 2.0 TSI to check for chain stretch also but it's a different method. I'll see if I can do this in a little bit

 

[SaVAGeSoot]

Yes, on gassers you look at MVBs 91 and 93 or something for something like a 3deg spread... But no one cares because we are concerned with our oil burners instead.

 

[alfissimo]

Nothing. I do not have those parameters to check on mine. I have been through it several times and cannot find those measurement blocks at all.

Mine does NOT come up like this:

Loc. does not show IDE..... Just 029.... etc. No camshaft values at all.

 

[SaVAGeSoot]

Screenshot or it didn't happen. Are you using genuine VCDS or some clone?

 

[alfissimo]

Screenshot or it didn't happen. Are you using genuine VCDS or some clone?

Genuine of course with Genuine Dongle.

 

[alfissimo]

Nothing available. Maybe not available for 7L

 

[seafarer28]

I may be in the same boat with my '08 7L, can you check if you have UDS protocol?

https://forums.ross-tech.com/index.php?threads/1905/

TonyB

 

[SaVAGeSoot]

Try typing phase in search box