and no air suspension

 

So what will the price increases look like?

 

Don't all Touaregs have a light for the rear license plate?

 

Yes - but this is LED

 

-Hybrid models receive xxx xxxxxxxxx and rear license-plate light.http://media.vw.com/pressrelease/1112/1/volkswagen-continues-its-product-offensive-model-year-2013

Classic fail. :twisted:

 

Uggh I seriously hate the Vavona wood trim I hope its not take it or leave it in the Exec and Hybrid models (sounds like it is) so I will have to go for a Lux even though I prefer the Exec's wheels to the Lux's. It looks like wood from some wild African safari (more suitable to a Lexus or Infiniti - I guess BMW and Audi have been using Vavona wood trim but not Mercedes). The worst part is that VW doesn't usually give you many options. It's often take it or leave it. Maybe it will grow on me after I see it in person or some pictures. Not happy about the trim though. :?

 

Interesting to put LED tail lights on only the hybrid. If this is your flagship the least you could do is put decent speakers an amp in it. Having said that I am otherwise happy with our hybrid and need to make an appointment with the stereo shop soon...

 

So you have the Dynaudio system and it isn't very good? Or you opted for a less expensive model without the Dynaudio system?

 

Hybrid "base" comes with nearly every available US T3 option except Dynaudio, which is quite decent I am told.

 

Just looked - you get the Exec trim without Dynaudio - I didn't realize that you didn't get trim level options.

 

I think the worst is no Adaptive Cruise Control. You can get it on a Ford Edge, but not the Touareg? What are they thinking?

 

My theory is that they are trying to avoid cannibalization of sales from cayenne and q7 lines-- as long as you need to go there for certain options it protects the premium value of those marques. This is true in the US where VW is not seen as being able to command those high margin prices. In the ROW however VW and esp Touareg are a premium products so no value confusion... Lots of ways to load up on options.

This, and keeping prices down, are the only way I can rationalize VWoA avoiding what would otherwise be extremely profitable options lists for the T3.

 

Could be true. American Auto makers make equally dumb decisions. You can but a 2012 Jeep Wrangler with a diesel in most of the world except for the US. I guess they're not interested in sales to those who want better fuel milage and have no desire for a Hybrid 4wd. You can retro fit the 2.0 liter VW diesel in one, but it gets kind of expensive.

 

My theory is that they are trying to avoid cannibalization of sales from cayenne and q7 lines-- as long as you need to go there for certain options it protects the premium value of those marques.

Agreed. Doesn't make financial sense though I do wish we could custom order those features.

 

2013 Execline gets a backup camera

 

2013 Execline gets a backup camera

My 2012 TDI Sport w/Nav has the backup camera. They told me at the dealership that the late 2012 models started getting cameras with the Navigation. They said that the early once didn't because of the tsunami in Japan and there was no supply.

 

My 2012 tdi lux has no camera. Would love to have one I could just plug into my trailer hitch.

 

My 2012 tdi lux has no camera. Would love to have one I could just plug into my trailer hitch.

I built a portable wireless one. I have it wired to power on when I turn on the marker lights.

Here are the parts.
http://www.amazon.com/Curt-Manufacturing-58140-Plastic-Connector/dp/B001EOWPOA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1346461540&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/TE-TXRX-Universal-Wireless-Transmitter-Receiver/dp/B007BD5KAY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1346461444&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/TE-SSC-Universal-Square-Vehicle-Backup/dp/B007BD5KDG/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1346461668&sr=1-5

Some heat shrink tubing, a small strong magnet (to attach the camera bracket to the metal hitch), and a small back up camera monitor http://www.amazon.com/3-5-Inch-TFT-Monitor-Automobile/dp/B0045IIZKU/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1346461889&sr=1-1 with one of these

http://www.amazon.com/Roadpro-Fused-Replacement-Cigarette-Lighter/dp/B0016LG0CY


If you want it to be displayed on the nav unit you have to get these (but for a few hundred more you can buy the oem camera system.)

http://www.kufatec.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5_182&products_id=1379
and
http://www.kufatec.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5_182&products_id=1566

 

Our 2013 TDI Lux has the backup camera.

 

Interesting the Hybrid has no Panaudio?

 

2013 Changes - TDI

One of the biggest changes is the engine in the 2013 has an increase to 240 horsepower AND has shed 55lbs. Thus, MPG is better. I have a 2013 TDI Lux and I am on my first tank and I have 365 miles on the tank and it's above half full. The computers is saying I am getting 32mpg and I have been driving 30% highway and 70% in town (not bumper to bumper city traffic). I am very optimistic on the MPG, hope it continues.

 

One of the biggest changes is the engine in the 2013 has an increase to 240 horsepower AND has shed 55lbs. Thus, MPG is better. I have a 2013 TDI Lux and I am on my first tank and I have 365 miles on the tank and it's above half full. The computers is saying I am getting 32mpg and I have been driving 30% highway and 70% in town (not bumper to bumper city traffic). I am very optimistic on the MPG, hope it continues.

I just did a compare on the VW Canada site. It shows the hp difference but no weight difference.

 

Where was 55lbs lost?

 

I think the weight may have been lost in the Engine... Less chains, gears and some lighter materials.

 

VW.CA is not a reference!

The specs are almost the same as 2012 on the site....even though there's no more sport suspension anymore....

 

I'd love to know if the new engine has less chains or not. My best "FULL" hand calculated tank was 38 US MPG.

 

What was your top cruise speed to achieve those magnificent numbers for MPG? 58, 59 MPH?

 

2013 Execline comes standard with sport suspension as per VW.CA website Features & Specs < Models < Volkswagen Canada

 

I'd like a confirmation from a VW Tech guy on this.

Just to confirm that they didn't just copy specs from 2012....

As I said before, I'm not convinced the vw.ca is a reference.

 

i called up VW Canada and they don't know if the Execline will have it or not. They havent received any deliveries or actual information from Europe of the Execline only the Highline. If your regional rep mentioned this i think he might only be assuming. The information should arrive in about two weeks time. The person i spoke said he would be really surprised if the execline wont come with sport suspension as for production its easier to leave it on. I'm crossing my fingers for it as this might push me towards an ML 350 BT....

 

I've seen and photographed a V6 TDI Execline.
Interestingly it also had the walnut wood trim, not Vavona.

 

I am not a fan of LED tail lights. Looks too busy. I prefer "regular" lights with a nice uniform reflector system. What we have in the current T3 is nice. One of the cleanest tail-light set-ups IMO is the 2000-2005 Chevy Impala. Simple.

 

looked at a 013 Lux today. Walnut..... nice if they had wood to match leather like my Lexus

 

Did all 2012's came with sport suspension or just certain trims? I have a hybrid, what suspension do I have? Also mine for some reason does not have a "hybrid" emblem on the front grille.