FWIW my experience with 19" tires sucked. After spending $300.00 per tire for two sets and getting maybe 20K out of them I put 18" wheels on. Now I get 40K + for $200.00 per tire.

 

Well We are beginning to think you are right! I have never had this much bad luck and wear with a set of tires. We are going to run them as long as we can and then change them. I am glad to see we are not alone. Thanks

 

For 9,000 miles of wear, how many 1/32 nds of tread have been consumed? Tire Rack - Your performance experts for tires and wheels indicates the OE Pirelli Scorpion Verde starts off with 11/32nds. For its admittedly "limited" OE applications (our low production rate Touareg's), they show it as one of the sterling performers.

In contrast, I have 1200 miles on a much lower rated (rated 25th in same category) GY LS 2, albeit 18 in 255/55, 109 H. The best I can figure is it starts off with 10/32nd and has posted ZERO consumption (still 10/32 nds). I did go through a very gentle 500 miles tire break in cycle.

 

The Verdes have the virtue of being smooth and quiet for on-road use. Don't know how they're going to wear on my new Treg. I always figure OEM tires are a compromise, chosen to make the vehicle test drive as nice as possible, while being "appropriate" for intended (expected) uses of the vehicle they're installed on. I'd guess the wear characteristics are probably the last priority.

 

From memory, the wear rating is like 9.4/10 for superior. Even the overall #1 rated tire is rated 9.1/10. Again in contrast, it is 5.3/10 for the GY LS2's, in the good category. So for those getting the Verdes, the tire is ranked #2 over all with the tread wear ratings being the highest.

 

I have high hopes for them. No complaints at only ~700 miles.

 

I just replaced a goodyear ls2 due to a bubble in the sidewall. It had less than 500kms on it. Dealer said it was likely a pothole. No waranty so i'm out $400...

 

I have about 6200 miles on my Pirellis and the fronts were cupping badly on outside edges. Took it to a local alignmenet shop and the alignmnet is within spec. So I just rotated for now. Any one else experiencing cupping?

 

Yes, major cupping at 25k miles and car was unstable..

At that point I changed them out for Goodyear Eagle LS-2's which seem to be doing well.. Now at 35k miles..

Never had a flat in the 35k miles either with pirelli or current tires, however.

 

After 26K miles on my Pirellis had abnormal wear on both the inside and outside ribs, but I would not call it cupping. I think cross rotating as opposed to just front to rear (as VW recommends) would alleviate this wear pattern.

 

Funny...i had the LS2s that came stock on my Executive changed out for Pirelli Scorpion Verdes. I did this in part because LS2s had terrible reviews and the Verdes had very high ratings from users on Tire Rack and others various searches.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...jsp?tireMake=Pirelli&tireModel=Scorpion+Verde+All+Season&partnum=745VR0SVASXLN0

No complaints with the Verdes, however, I only have 1500 miles on them since I used my winter tires for a few months after purchasing my Treg.

 

I have LS2s as oem and have no complaints so far. 7,500mi and no signiificant wear. Time will tell. JP

 

It would seem for the 18 in size the GY LS2's seem to have the edge over the 19 in and 20 in options. The Pirell Scorpion Verde A/S are better rated (tire rack also). They have higher UTQG (600 vs 400) and start with 1/32nd in more tread (11/32nds vs 10/32nds in).

I am coming up on 11,000 miles and the tires measures 9.3 /32nd in or app 14,000 miles per 1/32nd of wear. (starts with 10/32nd in). Wear is dead even across the width of the tread. Per oem owners manual I am running + 3 psi over recommended of 33 F/38 R or 36 F /41 R PSI.

This is interesting in that IF I had my druthers I would have chosen the Pirelli's. Indeed I am seriously considering the P S V A/S LX20's. for the next set. But given my current results, and other owners' feedback, I should also consider the GY LS2's again.

The up side is that for replacement Pirelli tires that do not live up to the 50,000 miles warranty (H rated), the next set will be prorated.

 

I'm wondering how everyone's tires are doing now. My 2011 tdi lux came with the Pirelli's. I'm just below 20,000 and the tread is really worn down at this point. I'll likely need to get a new set in the next month or so. The service guy at the dealership claimed that he doesn't normally see touaregs get more than 25k miles on a set of tires... and claimed it wasn't just the pirellis while saying the touareg is a really heavy vehicle. I will likely get a different set even if he is correct, the pirellis seem loud to me... though they are the only think I've had on the treg at this point. I'd be curious to know what kind of life you are getting out of your tires now.

 

Just shy of 5000 miles and the Pirelli Verdes are doing great! I will be highly disappointed if they only get 25k miles.

 

I am very disappointed in the performance of the Scorpion Verdes. We have rotated the tires twice and still have issues with cupping and road noise. The car has 20,000 miles and we are having to replace the tires. We began having issues a little over 10,000 miles with normal driving conditions. I complained to the dealership and Pirelli and get the same response "the car is set up to be aggressive" and the tires have minimum life. Pirelli states they are 60,000 mile tires, but they will not last close to the length of time. I am tire searching now!

 

I have a 2012 with Pirelli Scorpion Verde 265/50r19 tires on its. I have only had the vehicle for 8 months and I have already put 20,580 miles on it and just found out today, that I need new tires, per my scheduled VW maintenance.

This is so frustrating! It seems like VW needs to put appropriate tires on a heavy SUV vehicle. Price has nothing to do with value. The tires have a 600 Tread Wear rating. It's not the tires as much as it’s the German Engineering, or lack thereof.

This is my first and maybe last VW. I love the vehicle, its fits me perfectly as I am tall and drive a lot. However I need to get more than 20,000 miles out of a set of tires. If I wanted poor value I would have purchased a Buick Enclave.

 

I have 21200 miles on my verde, and they still look like new.

 

I have 8800 miles on my verde, and judged by the tread wear, should last 30,000. Wear is even, all 4 tires, no cupping, running 2 psi over recommended (35 front/ 40 rear).

 

Just installed a set. Mine are 20s...so far they ride nice and look good.

 

I think the stock 19" tires are too wide . . .

Curious to know others' thoughts on this . . .

I've always tried to keep the "tread width" close to the rim width. The tire profile can be wider but [my theory is] when the tread width gets much wider than the rim, even on radials, the tread struggles to maintain "even" contact with the road surface causing abnormal wear. The VW version of the 265/50/19 H rated is 10" wide on just an 8.5" rim. On the other hand, Porsche's V rated is only 9.5" on a 9" rim.

Thoughts?

I had [and still have] a serious traction problem on my ole' 442 just because I wanted to maintain the stock look even though I've got 400HP/500lb.ft. under the hood. So I tried just moving from 235s to 255s on just 8" rims and they were gone in just 15K miles of course partly due to my right foot but generally just uneven wear, not from wearing out. I never have been a "how much can I smoke the tires" type.

The Verdes are still on my short list for my Pepper if it ever gets here. It's coming with Goodyear Eagles that have horrible winter ratings and generally just not good ratings period. Of course, those Pirelli ATRs I had on my Touareg, which I still miss BTW . . . are still on my shortlist too. But they're only 8.5" wide on in my case 9" rims.

 

...The Verdes are still on my short list for my Pepper if it ever gets here. It's coming with Goodyear Eagles that have horrible winter ratings and generally just not good ratings period...

Buy an extra set of wheels or sell/trade your "OEM" set of wheels/tires back to either the dealer or your favorite tire shop before you drive off the lot.

There are lots of previously-owned Cayenne 18" wheels for sale because of owners wanted to bling up to 20s.

 

Already have done that. Got different wheels and whatever tires I decide to buy to put on it when it gets here.

I was more interested to hear opinions about the "too wide" issue causing the premature tire wear?

 

One thing I've noticed is that some Verdes have the "high mileage" symbol on the tires and some don't. So since they are all rated 600UTQG I wonder why that is? Just makes you go . . . hmmh :-k

The 235/60/18s I bought for the wife have all four symbols: Fuel, Green, Low Noise, and High Mileage

The 265/50/19s I just bought only have three symbols: Fuel, Green, and Low Noise

 

One thing I've noticed is that some Verdes have the "high mileage" symbol on the tires and some don't. So since they are all rated 600UTQG I wonder why that is? Just makes you go . . . hmmh :-k

The 235/60/18s I bought for the wife have all four symbols: Fuel, Green, Low Noise, and High Mileage

The 265/50/19s I just bought only have three symbols: Fuel, Green, and Low Noise

I believe the "NO" designation on the 19's indicate it is a Porsche/VW spec tire and that can differ from the normal Pirelli. See this article:

Barry's Tire Tech
and the following quote contained therein:

"However, the performance requirements are usually quite different than what you would find if the tire manufacturer designed the tire himself. Typically the rolling resistance is significantly lower and treadwear and / or wet traction gets compromised as a result."

Notice also that Tirerack lists an OE version and normal version in that size. The former has a 520 rating and is narrower. the later is rated at 600 and is wider.

 

The Verdes are terrible. I just changed out all 4 at 20,000 miles. They were down to 3/32" and had not worn particularly evenly. That is in spite of rotating every 5,000 and keeping the pressures at 35/40. I have never had luck with Pirelli Scorpions on any SUV. They are a pretty soft tire, and I replaced with the michelins.

 

JDsmooth - which michelins did you put on?

 

just a quick look and the Mich Tour HP has a H or V speed rating tire.

 

currently 21150 miles on my 255 55 18 h rated pirelli verde, current measurement 7/32.