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2011 VW Touareg Auto-hold & parking brake

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#1 ·
I am a new VW owner and I just want to make sure my touareg is operating properly.

When I am driving, with my seat belt on, I engage auto-hold and it does as it should at red lights (keeps my car still without my foot on the brake). Now, when I park and take off my seatbelt, the electronic parking brake automatically turns on before turning off the car. The next time I start the car, the electronic parking brake is still on and I must apply my foot to the brake and pull up the latch to disengage it.

Now I am driving and I DO NOT have my seatbelt on (say re-parking the car) with auto-hold on. When I put the car in park, the electronic parking brake DOES NOT automatically engage and it is not on when I start my car the next time.

Is this what happens with everyone else? This is my first VW so I sorry for the amateur question.

Just curious why this happens and if my VW is functioning properly.

Thanks!!!!
 
#2 ·
Everything you say is right except after you've parked with autohold on, and the next time your start the car the E-brake is still on, you actually don't have to release it manually to disengage it. If you put it into drive while the e-brake is on (and your seatbelt on) and very gently give it a second then push the accelerator it will automatically release.
 
#4 ·
Does anyone know if the auto-hold feature was removed for 2012? I thought maybe it was not available in the US, but was watching a video review of a 2011 Lux and saw it, and then found this thread that also discusses it. I have a 2012 Exec and it does not have the auto-hold button.
 
#5 ·
It's the highlighted button in 2011 models, but it does look like they removed the words "AUTO HOLD" from the 2012 models.

The icon on this button indicates that it does park brakes only.

NOTE: This pic is from a 2012...
 

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#6 ·
yeah, that's what mine looks like. auto-hold should be where the blank under the parking break is. i wonder if the button can be switched out, and activated with vag-com?

i see you have a 2011. do you have the feature?
 
#9 ·
yeah, I didn't realize until I looked at lunch, that the "Auto-Hold" part of it is actually in that lower part of the switch.

Yes, I have a 2011, and mine does have the auto-hold feature.

If it were up to my wife, she'd trade you our Auto-Hold button for your blank! It's a "feature" that she's not happy with, or, should I say, she doesn't like it when I use it.

At the end of the day, I must admit that it's one of them features that probably sounds "cool", but I'm not for sure that there's really that much "usefullness" in the feature. Might be nice if you were a mailman, stopping at each mailbox, but the occasional time that I need to stop at the drive-thru and such, it's just really more of a foo-foo feature than anything.

I'm not sure that you're really missing a whole lot.

Other's mileage may vary...
 
#7 ·
Mr. Penguin -

I have a 2011 Exec with the Electronic Parking Brake functionality too. I'm thrown off by your statement saying "...I must apply my foot to the brake and pull up the latch to disengage it." Now, as with conventional Emergency Brakes (old school hand brake style) Up is on and Down is off. VW followed this format for the e-Brake system in the T3 so when I engage mine, I pull the lever up, not down and to disengage, I push down but you're telling us you pull up on the latch? Is that correct? If so then something is wrong or at least it sounds to be the opposite.
 
#13 ·
cool. i sent them my 2012 dump a few weeks back. maybe with that they'll notice a coding difference, then it would just be adding the switch to get it.
I would not count on just being able to add a switch to get it to work. VW has been known for decontenting stuff as they go. I had features on my 04 V6 that I don't on my 2010 TDI. 09-10 lost a lot of good features imo over the 08 and no easy way to get them back. We lost power folding mirrors, memory seats as well as tilt in reverse. No auto dimming outside mirrors anymore either, but I did gain a heated steering wheel. So they will do odd things like that and not much you can do.
 
#15 ·
I am just telling you that if the option was removed it will not be a simple turn on in VCDS or just adding a switch. It rarely is. You can investigate to your hearts content. :)
 
#16 ·
My Auto-Hold has a tendency to stick occasionally, maybe 1 time out of 4. By stick, I mean I have to give it a little more accelerator before it will release. Had VW check it during a recent service, but got the usual "working normally, no problem found". Anybody else? or is this just something that I have to get used to?

//greg//
 
#17 ·
Have you noticed that it does this after long periods of time on auto-hold, like at a long train?

I've noticed that mine will do this too, but mine tends to do this AFTER long periods, and if auto-hold has been holding for a "set" period of time (I don't know what that time period is), it will do an auto-set on the park brake as well. Once this has happened, you have to wait a little bit longer before you drive off, because now it has to release the parking brake.

That's what I've noticed, but I've never actually noticed that it sticks while using it for a short period of time...
 
#18 ·
Well, I guess sitting at a long light with Auto-Hold engaged might equate to waiting at a train crossing. I'll pay more attention to the duration in the future. I'm going to give this one back to VW service for a second look

//greg//
 
#21 ·
Just noticed in the owner's manual that the auto-hold section states "Only Applicable in Canada" guess the axed it from all 2012 USA Touaregs. Annoying.
Imagine how the Canadians felt when they could not get air suspension and we could. Somewhat the same deal really.
 
#22 · (Edited)
My 2011 TDI has the Auto Hold in it and it functions exactly as you describe. Although something odd happened the other day in a drive thru. I was sitting at the window with the Auto Hold engaged and the car made a wierd creaking noise and started to move forward on it's own. I immediately stepped on the brake (the car only moved an inch or two) and when I looked down at the Auto hold button I discovered that the parking brake had engaged itself. Now I don't know if this happened before I stepped on the brake pedal or after. If it was before then I think this is a great safety feature. If it was after then I'm not really sure what to think. Has this ever happened to anyone else???

Cadman.....I really have to start reading the whole thread before I reply. It never occured to me that the vehicle would be making a transition on it's own. Makes sense that it would though. Although I was only sitting there for about a minute.
 
#23 ·
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Cadman.....I really have to start reading the whole thread before I reply. It never occured to me that the vehicle would be making a transition on it's own. Makes sense that it would though. Although I was only sitting there for about a minute.
Don't give me the credit!

I have NO idea at all if it's doing that transition. That's pure speculation on my part based on the way that it acts. Sure does act like what it's doing though, and it sounds like your experience is the same as mine though...
 
#24 ·
Auto-hold and parking brake

Regarding the thread about auto-hold.
I have a 2011 Treg3 Exec and it does exactly the same.
What happens when auto-hold is engaged is the brakes are applied and the double clutch is disengaged. If the pre-determined time is exceeded then the transmission disengages the clutch, parking brake is applied and auto-hold function is not used. this feature saves excess wear and tear on the release bearing on the clutches and a small amount of clamping pressure of the pressure plates . It is like keeping the clutch pedal pushed down on a manual transmission car for a very long time while idling:)
 
#26 ·
Regarding the thread about auto-hold.
I have a 2011 Treg3 Exec and it does exactly the same.
What happens when auto-hold is engaged is the brakes are applied and the double clutch is disengaged. If the pre-determined time is exceeded then the transmission disengages the clutch, parking brake is applied and auto-hold function is not used. this feature saves excess wear and tear on the release bearing on the clutches and a small amount of clamping pressure of the pressure plates . It is like keeping the clutch pedal pushed down on a manual transmission car for a very long time while idling:)
The touareg doesn't have a double clutch transmission (DSG) it is a regular slush box built by aisin in Japan.
 
#25 ·
T3-EXEC said:
Mr. Penguin -

I have a 2011 Exec with the Electronic Parking Brake functionality too. I'm thrown off by your statement saying "...I must apply my foot to the brake and pull up the latch to disengage it." Now, as with conventional Emergency Brakes (old school hand brake style) Up is on and Down is off. VW followed this format for the e-Brake system in the T3 so when I engage mine, I pull the lever up, not down and to disengage, I push down but you're telling us you pull up on the latch? Is that correct? If so then something is wrong or at least it sounds to be the opposite.
I believe that I misspoke. When I dont have a seatbelt on, I push the button down to disengage the parking brake.
 
#30 ·
I have a 2011 tdi Exec with 10K miles and I've used the auto-hold feature exactly once. Maybe I'd use it more if I lived in San Francisco, but I don't like the way the car lurches forward when you move from brake to accelerator. I like a car to start to move slowly as you come off the brake. Just doesn't feel normal to have the thing sit there as you come off the brake. I don't think the '12's are missing much without this feature.
 
#32 ·
Hello Touareg friends, i am from Germany, sorry for my bad english.

I have read this topic before i had the solution.

The solution for our problem is very easy.

You have only to buy this item : 7P1927225A

Than change this item with your old controler. Than drive up to 15 km/h, than press the button Auto Hold and it have to be work.

My Touareg in Germany is an import from US, so i think it would work by you too. If not, than with VCDS/VAG-Com.

I am so happy now !!!

Thanx