[Franco Waters]

Club I need some help, advice and direction

I changed out my Valve Cover Gasket due to oil leak into spark plug sleeves, I did drivers side first and when I opened passenger side Valve Cover Gasket, I noticed the Upper Camshaft closet to HPFP have been damaged and scorched by the Roller Cam Rocker Arm on the 2 front Camshaft Lobes closest to radiator

if I would want to replace camshaft and Roller Cam Rocker Arm would I have to remove engine or can it be done with engine in vehicle

ill send pic on next post

 

[Franco Waters]

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[Franco Waters]

I found Mountain View Garage pulling 3.6 VR6 engine with his 3 kids with a pallet jack and wood pallet

The V8, sure more complicate then V6 but looking at how he does it im sure I can use his way to get the V8 out

I Fry Chicken for a living and paid of my Touareg don't want to let it go, I lifted it with 33 inch tires, did lots of maintance work on, pulling the engine I can do more preventive maintance along replacing camshaft, I might as well do timing chain and guides with a carbon clean, o rings in the back , new fluids

anyone that has pulled V8 FSI please shed some info and knowledge it will be very much appreciated , im planing on recording the entire break down and removal of engine put back in

suggestion on camera or go pro set up please for documentation would be apreciated

please like and support Mountain View Garage video, I think his video is a game changer to Touareg repair with most owner DIYers being scared on pulling engine

 

[Dusty Touareg]

wow! Great video! Thats a LOT of work although he makes it look easy. Great video to show how to get lock carrier off etc. Very informative.

 

[Micheld7]

That camshaft is toast and the rocker arms ohhh my!!! I wonder what happened. Did you have any symptoms or issues besides oil leak from valve covers. I also have a V8 FSI.

I do think if you can buy or rent an engine hoist, it might be easier pulling only the engine out instead of dropping the subframe and pulling the whole engine/transmission/transfer case unit out
Look at this MY07 Q7 Engine Overhaul 11-18-2017 to 01-15-2018 -- She is alive and running fine again!!!!

 

[Blaznjoe]

I found Mountain View Garage pulling 3.6 VR6 engine with his 3 kids with a pallet jack and wood pallet The V8, sure more complicate then V6 but looking at how he does it im sure I can use his way to get the V8 out I Fry Chicken for a living and paid of my Touareg don't want to let it go, I lifted it with 33 inch tires, did lots of maintance work on, pulling the engine I can do more preventive maintance along replacing camshaft, I might as well do timing chain and guides with a carbon clean, o rings in the back , new fluids anyone that has pulled V8 FSI please shed some info and knowledge it will be very much appreciated , im planing on recording the entire break down and removal of engine put back in suggestion on camera or go pro set up please for documentation would be apreciated please like and support Mountain View Garage video, I think his video is a game changer to Touareg repair with most owner DIYers being scared on pulling engine

Interesting video with props to the Mountain View Garage family for wrestling the engine, transmission with drivetrain, subframe, and front suspension out using floor jacks.😬

That camshaft is toast and the rocker arms ohhh my!!! I wonder what happened. Did you have any symptoms or issues besides oil leak from valve covers. I also have a V8 FSI. I do think if you can buy or rent an engine hoist, it might be easier pulling only the engine out instead of dropping the subframe and pulling the whole engine/transmission/transfer case unit out Look at this MY07 Q7 Engine Overhaul 11-18-2017 to 01-15-2018 -- She is alive and running fine again!!!!

Those pictures are gold and that dude is a beast for removing and completely rebuilding the V8. 🤩

I know for a fact that the transmission and transfer case can be removed while leaving the engine and front suspension attached to the body/frame and the Q7 dude proves the engine can be removed without taking the transmission and front suspension/subframe out. I would only wonder if it is actually less of a headache to just remove everything rather than attempting to wrestle out the V8 by itself. @Franco Waters, maybe try contacting the Q7 dude for advice?

 

[Micheld7]

That Q8 V8 rebuild should be problem-free for a long time.

Mountain View Garage actually has videos on removing the V10 TDI engine. Pretty much the same procedures.
I agree with you. The more I watch the videos and look at the pictures, I think it'll be easier to pull the whole unit as out rather than fighting with the engine.

 

[Franco Waters]

That camshaft is toast and the rocker arms ohhh my!!! I wonder what happened. Did you have any symptoms or issues besides oil leak from valve covers. I also have a V8 FSI.

I do think if you can buy or rent an engine hoist, it might be easier pulling only the engine out instead of dropping the subframe and pulling the whole engine/transmission/transfer case unit out
Look at this MY07 Q7 Engine Overhaul 11-18-2017 to 01-15-2018 -- She is alive and running fine again!!!!

Wow great job, man that’s some serious workmanship one day I’d like to build a engine out like that in pieces !!

That’s some real man “Lego “ stuff lol

I don’t have a hoist or much work table and equipment, I might be wrong but taking engine and transmission as whole on subframe drop on pallet to work off

I’m all hears to suggestions and shared info i was looking at your pics over and over and kept smiling


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[Micheld7]

The Q7 pics are someone else's. They are not mine😅
it is definitely a huge task,
You may not need much equipment. How deep are you wanting to get into the engine? Just camshaft?

 

[Franco Waters]

The Q7 pics are someone else's. They are not mine
it is definitely a huge task,
You may not need much equipment. How deep are you wanting to get into the engine? Just camshaft?

Engine/Transmission with subframe off might be less work, using subframe as a stand to keep engine upright to work on and repair what I can see from there

wood pallets I have plenty, I can buy a few 4x4 wood pieces to make engine rest comfortable on wood pallet, Pallet Jack I can easily rent

so far I lifted my Touareg in my garage all by myself, replaced both HPFP, fuel flags and fuel filter housing in gas tank, figured out crankshaft problem and replaced, repair Transmission harness leak with tranny oil change, been working on secondary air injection and doing all oil changes at home

Im a bit scared trying to replace camshaft with engine in car and get to a point realizing I need the engine out to complete job , then that will add more work on

I have a repair manual of my VIN, and looked up VW tools need for timing/camshaft job
T40058 - Crankshaft Socket - $16
Special tool 3242 - Crankshaft Locking Pin - $28
T10133 - Injector tool Set - $130
T40116 - Camshaft Locating Pins - $75
T40070 - Camshaft Locking Tool - $45

If I miss any tools let me know

 

[Franco Waters]

View attachment Touareg 2008 WVGCB77L38D012529-1.pdf


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[Micheld7]

I would not attempt to replace camshaft with the engine still in place. You've done quite a bit of work there 👏
You're set on special tools. I will look for what other special tools is needed for the timing
There is a gasket between the lower half of the cylinder head and upper half. Some refer to it as cam girdle. I would replace those gasket. Besides valve covers, it is the main source of oil leak into the spark plug hole. and The problem it can only be done with the camshaft out of the way. I would think about that too.

 

[Franco Waters]

https://volkswagen.7zap.com/en/rdw/touareg/toua/2008-616/1/109-109017/

When I look at the Camshaft diagram from this angle, I can see it being possible to replace Camshaft with engine in car and not remove engine

Question ? Can Camshaft be taken out and keep the Camshaft Adjuster Unit (17) locked in time and remove bolt (18) and slide out Camshaft ?


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[Franco Waters]

I took off the rocker arm, I pressed down on the valve spring and unclipped it

Last 2 pic show the clip that hold the Rocker Arm clipped into the “Hydraulic Lash Adjuster”

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[Micheld7]

I wonder if replacing only he rock arms would suffice, but the problem I see is a huge chunk of the last cam lobe is gone and the second to last cam lobe is not in the best of conditions.
So I see the same thing happening again if you were to only put a new adjuster/lifter

 

[muadib97]

Not a V8, but I did just recently have the entire engine/drivetrain out of my 09 TDI, and then had to repull the transmission by itself. In my opinion, you'll save yourself a lot of pain and heartache by pulling everything out together, versus trying to just pull the engine. I did mine with a cherry picker and a floor jack. Pulling the entire front clip apart is a bit tedious, but not complicated. And being that VW designed everything to drop out of the bottom together, disconnecting everything from the body is quite simple and then it pulls straight out.

 

[Franco Waters]

Update

been busy on stripping down the front, I finally have everything disconnected on top and around the engine in the bay

Wiper removal as usual was a pain in the ass lol

So far everything is been going smooth

I put all my screws in ziploc bags and duck taped to part and then place them in big plastic tubs till i have to put it back on

if any of you have tips on how to keep screws and parts removed safe and organized please share, again I have zero mechanic skills only been working in my Treg and builded Legos till I was 15 years old

As I’m stripping down I made a cart at FCP Euro, ECS tunning, AutoHausAZ and Blauparts on all parts and tools I need - if any of you have ideas or wana share knowledge on what to replace while engine is out please share so I can order parts

I have the following:

Oil pressure switch - 06A919081J - 1 - while I do a carbon clean - FCP Euro $25.99ea

Camshaft plugs - 078103113E - 4 - will replace both banks - FCP Euro $13.95ea

Hydraulic Lash Adjuster - 022109423D - 2 - FCP Euro $6.29ea - this is what made me do this job

Camshaft Seal - 06E109345A - 4 - ill replace all 4 of them since i’ll replace the camshaft plugs and gaskets - FCP Euro $11.59ea

Transmission Mount Kit - OEM Corteco 80004521KT1
Comes with 2 bolts - FCP Euro $39.07

Engine Mount Kit - OEM Corteco KIT-538735 - 2 engine mounts with hardware - FCP Euro $222.08

Crankshaft Seal - OEM Corteco 079103051G -1 - $9.19ea

Oil cooler O rings / gasket - 079103121AD - 2 - FCP Euro $4.49

Rocker Arm - 06E109417P - 2 - FCP Euro $15.99ea - this is what made me this job- broken rocker arm

O ring - WHT002789 - 2 - FCP Euro $0.59ea - o ring on the camshaft solenoid

O ring - N90713203 - 2 - FCP Euro $1.79eac - o ring coolant pipe inside timing cover o ring closer to camshaft - inner o ring on coolant pipe

O ring - 91065802 - 2 - FCP Euro $2.39ea - o ring on coolant piper inside timing cover close to cover
or outer o ring on coolant pipe

Camshaft Sproket Bolt - N91042802 - 4 - FCP Euro $3.99ea

Pentosin CHF202 Fluid - 00004330574 - 2 - FCP Euro $18.59ea - 1 litter per bottle - ordered 2 not sure how much I need

Loctite Sealant - 00004320435 - 1 - AutohausAZ $19.69 - need for the sealing retainer frame that sits under valve cover on top of head

Valley Pan Gasket - 079103161J -1 - AutohausAZ $6.19 - when I do carbon cleaning

Pentosin Antifreeze G13 - G013A8JM15L - 1- AutohausAZ $43.99ea 5L bottle - not sure how much I need …. Also have other VAG cars

Pentosin Antifreeze G13 - G013A8JM1- 1 - AutohausAZ $15.19ea 1.5L bottle - not sure how much I need

Left Inner Valve Cover Gasket - 079103649C - 1- AutohausAZ $17.89ea - this gasket sits under the retaining frame and seals spark plugs, use loctite to seal rest of outside retaining frame

Right inner Valve Cover Gasket - 079103650C - 1 - AutohausAZ $17.89ea - this gasket sits under the retaining frame and seals spark plugs, use loctite to seal rest of outside retaining frame

Manifold Gaskets - 079133074B - 2 - AutohausAZ $17.59ea


already bought engine oil, spark plugs, coils, valve cover gaskets

If there is anything else I’m missing please add on, thank you to all responding and guiding me

found a 4 foot metal industrial push cart $75, I’ll put two 5 and half feet 4x4 wood blocks under to drop subframe on top

I took lots of pictures, this is just a few

Look at oil by crank

Hoping to pull engine out and place next to Treg and work on it, very nice to have lifted Treg and placed on dolly wheels to give me enough space for disconnecting exhaust, tranny connection, steering

I had to get creative my garage and parts I took off

This yellow and purple o rings comes off the A-C condenser up front - I looked to see if I can purchase new o rings but no luck so far

Everything on top in engine bay disconnected - was not that difficult just lots of fluid catching lol

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[Micheld7]

Wow, what a list! I see you are going to remove the manifold. I would add the two oil filter housing o-rings
1) VAG-N90959701
2) VAG-079103121BE

That Touareg should problem free after all this.
Are you doing timing chain?

 

[Micheld7]

I would replace the 4 o-rings for the cam adjuster

 

[Franco Waters]

Thank you micheld7,

I added:

N90959701
079103121BE

And 4 o rings for cam adjuster: WHT002789


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