[carboncow]

I just read a few WAY to long threads that were meandering and overly analytical about eurospec, etc...still never got the answers I wanted. Someone spoon feed me.

The 2008 doesn't have the options as much as earlier years from what I can tell. No Hawk LTE options for my year.

Regardless who has the best experience and with what on a 08-09 T2 with low dust. Looking at Pelican Parts and I see about 6 options for the 300mm fronts.

ATE Ceramic: yeah...yeah...yeah I read the post and know how you guys say the sun will explode if get those.
Bosch Euroline
ATE
Pagid
Textar
OEM

As we know the OEMs are unbearble. I can spend an hour cleaning my wheels to have them black again by the next weekend. Don't have this issue with my other heavy trucks!

What do you like for your sanity and stopping power?

 

[Perry01]

I use TRW European spec pads which are equal to OEM performance but with half the dust but I found some premium ceramic pads from TRW on Amazon at a good price. Probably not as good initial bite but TRW makes a good product. What don't you try them out and let us know how they work?

BTW, we have 330 mm front discs not 300 mm

Fronts:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00S8D16M...TF8&colid=31AGCOFO2A46I&coliid=I3TWZZ88QNEIL7

Rears

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00897MSE...TF8&colid=31AGCOFO2A46I&coliid=I3MBLP4A0NHICC
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[carboncow]

Thanks....that is the exact kind of intel I wanted!!

I did mean to state 330mm...I know there is the 350mm too for the V10 but I DID NOT know there is a 368mm listed on some sites?!?!? Is that for the "R" in Europe? I think I saw that listed on Pelican.

 

[carboncow]

Fronts:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00S8D16M...TF8&colid=31AGCOFO2A46I&coliid=I3TWZZ88QNEIL7


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Opps...you got a link for them for the fronts? That link comes up rear too and I'm not finding them with my limited search skills!

EDIT: I did find them!

https://www.amazon.com/TRW-TPC1014-...=1-3&keywords=TRW+front+brake+ceramic+touareg

Already on the way...

 

[Black Grouse]

Thanks....that is the exact kind of intel I wanted!!

I did mean to state 330mm...I know there is the 350mm too for the V10 but I DID NOT know there is a 368mm listed on some sites?!?!? Is that for the "R" in Europe? I think I saw that listed on Pelican.

AFAIK there's only two sizes for Touareg - one for the V10/R50 and one for the rest.

 

[carboncow]

AFAIK there's only two sizes for Touareg - one for the V10/R50 and one for the rest.

That's what I saw too but for some reason Pelican is confusing the topic! Sure it's some type or such...

I put in 2008 T2 V6 and got these that came up first!

 

[Grifnsqest]

I went with the Stoptech drilled/slotted rotors on Rockauto, with Stoptech pads and ECS steel braided lines. Best braking package at the best price! Oh, and NO dust issues...

 

[carboncow]

I went with the Stoptech drilled/slotted rotors on Rockauto, with Stoptech pads and ECS steel braided lines. Best braking package at the best price! Oh, and NO dust issues...

Thanks. I'll research those too.

I'm sure this is opening a can of worms but what benefit do those rotors provide for a SUV. Is it just for looks?

 

[Perry01]

Thanks. I'll research those too. I'm sure this is opening a can of worms but what benefit do those rotors provide for a SUV. Is it just for looks?

Slotted rotors provide a good bite, especially when brakes are cold. Drilled rotors are lighter and are good if you take your vehicle to the track. I've cracked drilled rotors before. They aren't as strong.
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[Grifnsqest]

The type of vehicle or driving style really is irrelevant. Here's a "basic" breakdown of why this type of setup has its advantages...


When you apply the brakes, your two pads are pushed towards the flat surface of the rotor. This friction is what slows the vehicle down, which is what you want. But, the faster you are moving and the harder you press, more friction is created but only to a certain point. There is a point where the heat building up from the friction actually pushes the pads away from the rotor surface from gas pressures and heat. Clearly, this is making your braking efforts less effective.

When you have a drilled/slotted rotor, you have a couple different actions playing into your braking benefit. One, you are eliminating the gas-generated gap between the pad and rotor by allowing the gasses to pass through to the inside of the rotor and vent outwards. You are also getting a cooler surface temperature on the rotor itself, because it is able to expel the excess heat building up.

As far as the lines go, you have to picture your brake line as if it were a balloon. When you blow into the balloon, that extra pressure causes the the balloon to expand into a ball. The idea is to get all that pressure out the other end of the balloon. Now picture trying to blow that same balloon up, but cover it with a steel blanket. The balloon will not expand into a ball.

When you have steel braided lines, the pressure that your brake fluid is generating makes its way fully to the caliper, rather than having residual pressure loss due to the line expanding from a regular rubber line.


Now I've had all kinds of brake setup on my various Audis. I've gone with larger rotors with OEM type pads... I've done expensive pads on OEM rotors... I've done $2000+ "Big Brake" kits... The best bang for the buck really is the combination of a good quality pad with a drilled/slotted rotor AND steel braided lines.

 

[carboncow]

Haha! I had to ask didn't I!

Always read it was for looks and cool factor on street cars and only had it benefits on the track. High speed, high temps.

Also heard slotted/drilled eat pad more. You really feel that big a difference just driving around town?

Again my original question had todo with low dust. Doesn't all this crest more aggressive contact and thus dust, or no?

Others with input on thei make model please continue to chime in.

 

[Perry01]

I went with the Stoptech drilled/slotted rotors on Rockauto, with Stoptech pads and ECS steel braided lines. Best braking package at the best price! Oh, and NO dust issues...

Where did you find the Stoptech pads and how is the performance compared to the OEM Pagids?
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[Grifnsqest]

I think the people that make those comments haven't actually tried these types of combinations. I have tried them all, like I listed before. If I had to pick the setup that generated the most brake dust, it was the "Big Brake" setup I had on my B7 A4. It was an 8 piston brake caliper with 356mm rotors. I was running Pagid and Hawk pads with the setup, over the years. It didn't matter if I was at the track, commuting on the freeway, or basic daily driving around town. Once a week, my wheels were covered in dust.

I've never had any issues with drilled/slotted rotors eating pads up. Its an urban myth. The only thing I've seen eat pads up are caliper guide pins that are all dried up. Every time I take a caliper off, I lube the guide pins. If you stay on top of that basic service, you should never have uneven pad wear.

My wife has a Mercedes CLK350. The oem setup left the wheels filthy. Since I switched to the drilled/slotted setup and new pads, they are clean.

My Touareg... I drive like my B5 S4... like an idiot at times. But, even though its this big heavy pig of a vehicle, I have far more confidence in its braking abilities now that I have the setup that I have. Any, to your interest, 0 brake dust issues.

 

[Grifnsqest]

More Information for CENTRIC 30911650


"Centric" is Stoptech


It's tough for me to really compare OEM vs aftermarket. I never buy a vehicle new, nor does it stay "stock" for long after I buy it. I usually purchase my German vehicles 50-90k miles, so they are usually due for a lot of regular maintenance. I run through all the systems and start replacing/upgrading.

 

[Perry01]

More Information for CENTRIC 30911650 "Centric" is Stoptech It's tough for me to really compare OEM vs aftermarket. I never buy a vehicle new, nor does it stay "stock" for long after I buy it. I usually purchase my German vehicles 50-90k miles, so they are usually due for a lot of regular maintenance. I run through all the systems and start replacing/upgrading.

I understand but with the Touareg, OEM is Brembo with Pagid pads. A very good combination. Are you saying that your Touareg didn't have Pagid pads when you purchased it used? The Pagids provide excellent stopping power but produce lots of dust. I know Centric is Stoptech, I have their slotted rotors on my GTI along with Redstuff pads.

I want a good performing brake pad with minimal dust. I didn't see the Stoptech rear pads for the Touareg on Rockauto site, I'll look again. I'm wondering if they are a ceramic or metallic compound.
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[Njord]

AFAIK there's only two sizes for Touareg - one for the V10/R50 and one for the rest.

+ 308 mm /314 mm for the R5.

 

[noobytoogy]

Don't used anything other than plain discs / rotors if you off-road. Mud and grit caught in the grooves and holes will play merry hell with your pads.

 

[psycho13]

What about noise? A don't care about dust, I want the brakes to stay quiet and powerful.

 

[Grifnsqest]

No matter what combination you have, noise should never be an issue. If you are getting noise from your brakes, then there is something wrong. Either the pads are low on material, a dust shield is bent, a caliper/piston is stuck, etc...

 

[MtnPass]

I use TRW European spec pads which are equal to OEM performance but with half the dust but I found some premium ceramic pads from TRW on Amazon at a good price. Probably not as good initial bite but TRW makes a good product. .

Good to know. Do you have an estimate of how long they will last? Or is it too soon to tell.