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Just wanted a few words of advice for a set of tires. I found a local set of 17 inch Cayenne rims for a deal and bought them. I know the wonders of winter tires. I have dunlop winter sport 3d's on my gti and they are awesome. However, the touareg has 4wd and was considering just getting all terrains. Goodyear silent armor, michelin A/t ms2, ...considering many more. I have had pickups with all terrains and they did pretty well in snow. But I know winter tires are that much better for braking and traction. I am not offroading-Atleast not in any serious form, no rock crawling/mudding. Some beach driving, some light trails. This would be a second set of tires. I plan on keeping my 19 's for the summer.
Thank you for advice ahead of time.
 
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If you have serious winters use winter tyres - you already know what they can do and they are very much better that ATs when it comes to stopping! I know - I have both!!
 
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Not in the UK's current summer temperatures!!

We presently have hosepipe bans because the reservoirs didn't get enough rain water to replenish them in the winter and the last 6 weeks it has rained non-stop such that we now have floods!
 
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Check out the nokian WRG2 SUV line of winter ( legal snowflake marked) rated all seasons. I have a set on 17s and am really impressed. I understand they are not as good at extreme low temps but for rain and slush they are awesome. They have a 500 tread water rating too!
 
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Thank you for the input. I was pretty set on winters, but some co-workers tried to convince me that A/T is more than adequate. Here on long island, I could get away without them, but my fwd car was nearly unstoppable with winter tires when we had that bad winter in 2010-11. So I would like to see what a treg can do with some blizzaks or similar.
 
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I'm running stock size 235/65r17 wrg2s, I like a narrower snow tire and with them there is tons of room for running 5.5mm LT diamond back snow chains on all corners. Unstoppable!
 
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broncoguy27 said:
Stopping is a matter friction coefficient. If your friction coefficient is 0, 2 wheel or 4 wheel drive absolutely don't matter. Any number multiplied by 0 is...?
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The purpose of a true winter tyre is to create grip where others can't so whilst your mathematics are correct, the implication is not.
 
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I just wish they made something a little more aggressive in a 19 inch tire for 3 seasons. If I go with strictly winters (which I prob will), I am left with what is essentially a car tire for the rest of the year. I don't need to be moab capable, but don't want to puncture a tire going down a gravel driveway (slight exaggeration). I guess you can't have everything, and I understand the more agressive I go, the worse the driving dynamics will be. Scorpion ATRs come in 255/55 19 which would fit, but are a little narrow.
 
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The Touareg is a highly capable car so you don't need too aggressive a tread. I ran mine on General Grabber UHPs as did the UK VW demo team and these coped with with mud, gravel tracks, steep wet grass and even snow [ and my car is off raod every day by the way] anmd I never used low ratio or locked the diff.

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I now use Vredestein Wintrac 4 Google Image Result for http://lovetyres.com/public/tyre/Vredestein-Wintrac-4-Xtreme-2.jpg

and General Grabber ATs [not AT2s]

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I actually took my touareg north as soon as I got it for a trial run. It went through mud no problem with my conti 4x4 contacts, but they felt like slicks. Didn't get stuck, but felt inadequate. That's all I'm saying. I know these rigs are insane. I've seen what you guys have done with them. I thank you again for input and advice.
 
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You only have to look at the Contact to realise it could even let you down on wet grass!

It is a totally road biased tyre with no angular tread blocks for a bit of off road grip.

The only thing that saved you were the Touareg's electronics!
 
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Only if you don't have extremely low temperatures as another member in Alaska found out: they have changed the compound and he found he was driving square wheels after a very chilly night!

But he was happy with the Hakkapelittas that Nokian replaced them WRs with.
 
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So basically, I could just go with silent armors and be in better shape, being that the WRG2's are similarly rated, but don't have any offroad ability. If I could kill two birds with one stone, that would be great. We usually don't have much ice here in ny and the highways get cleaned pretty fast. I would love 3 sets of tires! Just not a reality. I'm sure Goodyear silent armors in 255/65r17 will be better than worn down conti's in a 275/45r19.
 
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Good tread - just won't stop as quick as a winter tyre in certain conditions.

As long as you remember that . . . !
 
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