Engine tuning (Re-map) 2012 Touareg V6 TDI

ryanfrancis7 · Mar 29, 2012

Hi, I recently took delivery my sexy Touareg. Does anyone know any reputable companies doing engine tune ups without affecting warranty, i know Pfaff in Vaughan do tune up's, but they don't have any for 2011 or 2012 Touareg TDI.

Anyone know anybody?

Cheers

noobytoogy · Mar 29, 2012

The car companies are making it harder and harder for remappers to access code to stop people remapping. You may have to wait a while.

ryanfrancis7 · Mar 29, 2012

You are probably right. But i know whoever is buying an Audi Q5 2.0 Turbo are getting their engines remapped, the company doing it is part of the Audi dealer.

There just must no be a huge demand for the Touareg to get remapped, i will have to keep my fingers crossed that it comes out soon.

Thanks

Newegg · Mar 29, 2012

i have done a fair bit of looking for a re map. Seems most of the companies that are doing this are not based in the US, (not sure where you are located). I spoke with the folks at APR APR - High Performance Development for Audi, VW and Porsche Vehicles. They said they will be working on a tune for the 3.0 TDI but wont be ready for some time. Not sure about using a tune that is not based on the US configuration.

This is a link to how APR does the ECU programs. Looks very slick.

!

LAT2 · Mar 30, 2012

I used the MTM piggyback which is a plug and play, 3 plugs that match OEM and your done. It's called the Cantronic and can be found on their web site.

I've put 500 km on the vehicle since and it is flawless. Fuel mileage (combined) has gone from 10.8lt/100km to 11.1lt/100 km, a negligible increase. There is now almost no lag when you step on it and it accelerates noticeably quicker. MTM claims 60 bhp, which if correct is over a 25% improvement which is substantial. Torque is claimed to increase by 50 lb ft or over 10%.

One other nice feature is a bypass switch on the unit so it would be invisible to unfriendly dealers.

I have had an MTM tune on my R8 for over a year and it rocks. I have no trouble recommending them.

There is a dealer in Canada who is good to work with and a new dealer in the US to be announced.

I hope this helps.

Enjoy.

burnsy1 · Mar 30, 2012

I thought there was a guy on here... Customspooling? That had a piggyback ecu tune... Supposedly you would unplug it and replug the old if you have to bring your egg in to the dealer.. Or am I talking about something different?

CustomSpoolingUSA · Mar 31, 2012

We've experienced some supplier issues with our Piggyback ECUs related to sourcing the correct connectors. We have discontinued selling these units until we get our issues sorted out. For the late model TDIs we still offer ECU remaps that significantly boost performance and improve power delivery. Contact me for more info, peter@customspooling.com

Newegg · Mar 31, 2012

@ Custom Spooling
Would you be so kind as to tell us what kind of performance numbers you have been able to achieve with a ECU remap for a 2011/2012 3.0 TDI. Is it a ghost program that the dealer cant see? How does it work? Cost?

Thanks for the info.

CustomSpoolingUSA · Mar 31, 2012

Newegg said:
@ Custom Spooling
Would you be so kind as to tell us what kind of performance numbers you have been able to achieve with a ECU remap for a 2011/2012 3.0 TDI. Is it a ghost program that the dealer cant see? How does it work? Cost?

Thanks for the info.

All of our tunes are customized starting with your stock ECU file. To increase power and smooth out power delivery, we recalibrate boost timing and injector timing along with some other engine controls. For the 2010-2012 Touareg, our basic performance tune results in an increase of 40-50 BHP and 80-90NM of torque. Our focus is on smooth power delivery across the rpm range while maintaining powertrain reliability and not peak HP/Torque numbers.

Because we cannot reflash our tune through the OBD2 port on the 2010-2012 TDI, customers must send their ECU to us for tuning. Our price is $1195 including return shipping.

Normally a dealer would not detect our tune while performing normal, routine maintenance. However, the tune is detectable if the dealer has reason to look for it with the diagnostic tool. Under Federal law, if the dealer denies warranty coverage because of our tune, they must prove that the tune was the cause of the warranty claim.

LAT2 · Mar 31, 2012

Not wanting to remove and ship the ECU is another reason I chose MTM.

nbedford · Apr 28, 2012

Can you tell anymore about the MTM, sounds interesting, is it really plug + play? or is installation more involved? Do you remove it when taking car back to dealer for service/warranty work or just switch off?

Also, I see torque figures are at higher RPM's, how is the performance at lower RPM's and how is general driving?

Thanks

tarbe · Apr 28, 2012

LAT2 said:
I used the MTM piggyback which is a plug and play, 3 plugs that match OEM and your done. It's called the Cantronic and can be found on their web site.

I've put 500 km on the vehicle since and it is flawless. Fuel mileage (combined) has gone from 10.8lt/100km to 11.1lt/100 km, a negligible increase. There is now almost no lag when you step on it and it accelerates noticeably quicker. MTM claims 60 bhp, which if correct is over a 25% improvement which is substantial. Torque is claimed to increase by 50 lb ft or over 10%.

One other nice feature is a bypass switch on the unit so it would be invisible to unfriendly dealers.

I have had an MTM tune on my R8 for over a year and it rocks. I have no trouble recommending them.

There is a dealer in Canada who is good to work with and a new dealer in the US to be announced.

I hope this helps.

Enjoy.

That 50 lb ft of torque is kinda scary......getting VERY close to exceeding the limits of the stock transmission.

The numbers CustomSpooling quoted seem more responsible to me, in the absence of any re-map of the transmission (which is still unavailable from anyone, as far as I know...I think Malone is working on one).

Tim

Perry01 · Apr 28, 2012

tarbe said:
That 50 lb ft of torque is kinda scary......getting VERY close to exceeding the limits of the stock transmission.

Exceeding the limits of the transmission?

The V6 TDI produces 406 ft. lbs of torque, add 50 and your at 456 ft. lbs.

The same transmission handles 590 ft. lbs of torque when mated to the V8 TDI Touareg offered in Europe and other countries.

So 456 ft. lbs of torque is definately not exceeding the limits of the transmission.

.

socal87 · May 2, 2012

ryanfrancis7 said:
You are probably right. But i know whoever is buying an Audi Q5 2.0 Turbo are getting their engines remapped, the company doing it is part of the Audi dealer.

There just must no be a huge demand for the Touareg to get remapped, i will have to keep my fingers crossed that it comes out soon.

Thanks

The Q5 has the 2.0 TFSI (at least here in the U.S.), the same engine as in the A4. APR has an ECU tune and various other mods available for that engine, however in the Q5 things like exhaust and intake and so on may not fit.

RDub7 · May 2, 2012

Perry01 said:
Exceeding the limits of the transmission?

The V6 TDI produces 406 ft. lbs of torque, add 50 and your at 456 ft. lbs.

The same transmission handles 590 ft. lbs of torque when mated to the V8 TDI Touareg offered in Europe and other countries.

So 456 ft. lbs of torque is definately not exceeding the limits of the transmission.

.

I have also read in passing the 8 speed A/T made by Aisin has a 627 # ft limit.

tarbe · May 3, 2012

Perry01 said:
Exceeding the limits of the transmission?

The V6 TDI produces 406 ft. lbs of torque, add 50 and your at 456 ft. lbs.

The same transmission handles 590 ft. lbs of torque when mated to the V8 TDI Touareg offered in Europe and other countries.

So 456 ft. lbs of torque is definately not exceeding the limits of the transmission.

.

I guess you didn't bother to read my entire post?

Perry01 · May 3, 2012

tarbe said:
That 50 lb ft of torque is kinda scary......getting VERY close to exceeding the limits of the stock transmission.

The numbers CustomSpooling quoted seem more responsible to me, in the absence of any re-map of the transmission (which is still unavailable from anyone, as far as I know...I think Malone is working on one).

Tim

Above is your entire post I yes I read it.

You say that 50 more ft. lbs of torque is kinda scary and is VERY close to exceeding the limits of the transmission correct?

Well, 50 ft. lbs more of torque in the V6 TDI is not even getting close to the limits of the Touareg's transmission.

.

SamTrooper · May 3, 2012

ok stop with the fighting because your both wrong.... The actual transmission limit is......>>>>>DRUM ROLL<<<<<<

Perry01 · May 3, 2012

I never specified a limit of the torque on the transmission of the Tpoareg, so how could I be wrong? I just said that 50 ft. lbs more of torque in the V6 TDI is not even getting close to the limits of the Touareg's transmission.

tarbe · May 19, 2012

Perry01 said:
I never specified a limit of the torque on the transmission of the Tpoareg, so how could I be wrong? I just said that 50 ft. lbs more of torque in the V6 TDI is not even getting close to the limits of the Touareg's transmission.

Yes it is. The ecu will shut down power when it hits the limit programmed into it.

The trans ecu must be re-mapped to avoid this, if your engine ecu re-flash will exceed the limits programmed into the trans.

You don't want to flash an engine to produce more torque than the trans is programmed to handle.

Malone is said to be working on a trans re-flash to allow higher torque.

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