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#63 · (Edited)
UnXpectedError said:
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10 year old drive lol
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Yeah, but it's an automotive/industrial rated SSD ! I'd put one in our MMI3GP main unit.

You should also find the nav version in [SETUP] > System > Version info:
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As for the GEM, press the [SETUP] button slightly before [CAR] and hold both until the GEM starts. Getting it just right takes some practice, even on our A4Q center console buttons. --g
 
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@UnXpectedError -- NAV initialization hangs mostly because MMI3GApplication can't find the acios_db.ini file for the installed nav database, which is likely when the version is not reported on the "Version info" screen.

As for the GEM, you may be trying too hard: using both hands, press [SETUP] with right hand then about a half second later, press [CAR] and hold both; GEM should start with 5 seconds or so (when it is enabled, as noted in your earlier VCDS Adaptation images). --g
 
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DrGER said:
@UnXpectedError -- NAV initialization hangs mostly because MMI3GApplication can't find the acios_db.ini file for the installed nav database, which is likely when the version is not reported on the "Version info" screen.

As for the GEM, you may be trying too hard: using both hands, press [SETUP] with right hand then about a half second later, press [CAR] and hold both; GEM should start with 5 seconds or so (when it is enabled, as noted in your earlier VCDS Adaptation images). --g
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Yea i always use two hands that was the first time i tried it with one hand in the video.

Just tried it like 20 more times without success. Tried varying the amount of delay between button presses from as fast as i can 0.1s, 0.5s, even 1 sec :unsure:
 
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@UnXpectedError -- Give this SD card script a try: 319.4 KB file on MEGA
It enables the GEM from the operating system (the GEM is an add-on to the main User Interface code that is run when the system powers on). When you extract the ZIP, copy the contents of the folder with the files & subdirs to a blank FAT32 SD card. Run the script by starting the RNS850, wait for all functions to initialize (except, of course, NAV), insert SD into slot 1, follow the screen prompts, then restart the RNS850. Really, if [SETUP] and [CAR] are recognized individually, the sequence of [SETUP]+[CAR] should work, too. BTW, not my SD card script; if it were mine, you would be able to extract it to the SD card directly and it would just-work. --g
 
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DrGER said:
@UnXpectedError -- Give this SD card script a try: 319.4 KB file on MEGA
It enables the GEM from the operating system (the GEM is an add-on to the main User Interface code that is run when the system powers on). When you extract the ZIP, copy the contents of the folder with the files & subdirs to a blank FAT32 SD card. Run the script by starting the RNS850, wait for all functions to initialize (except, of course, NAV), insert SD into slot 1, follow the screen prompts, then restart the RNS850. Really, if [SETUP] and [CAR] are recognized individually, the sequence of [SETUP]+[CAR] should work, too. BTW, not my SD card script; if it were mine, you would be able to extract it to the SD card directly and it would just-work. --g
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Thanks so much @DrGER that worked like a charm I am into the green menu 1st time ever. What was different with my RNS anyway?
Gotta run for a little bit to go do some actual work but this should enable me to carry on to the next steps on my own.:) 🍻 🍻 🍻 🍻
 
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Thanks no i'm just trying to gather everything i'll need and get a plan together here.

I need to do more reading i'm getting a little confused.

So I should first install the Factory firmware K0711 in user defined mode

Then Factory V12 Maps in user defined mode OR the 6.24.0 from your VWVortex post after fixing the ini file with your script

Then Install your maps in user defined mode

I am reading not to use the user defined mode from the Green Menu? So i don't need the Green Menu afterall?

User defined mode means you drill into each folder that has an "N" in the 2nd column and check the application checkbox...once they are all checked you download?

Still reading here i'm probably missing some things no doubt
 
#75 ·
Your RNS850 has production P0735 (MU s/w 0881) -- DO NOT overwrite this !

Update K0711 is needed only for RNS850 main units imaged before 2013.

You should be able to install Lysy's repackaging of the Audi NAR 6.24.0 update directly.

Your description of User-defined mode is correct -- I don't claim to know under what conditions it's always needed, but I do know (after several Audi nav updates from production) the first update can be done with Standard mode successfully. After that, we need to patch the QNX O/S to unblock access to the navdb, which breaks Standard mode for subsequent navdb updates (the reason has to do with how the O/S is patched to allow access to the navdb -- an aside: a fellow from Lithuanian claims to have a solution for this in a modified MMI3GApplication binary, but offers no details on this method). In any case, I would set User-defined in the GEM anyway, and try running your navdb "update" as Standard. If no components are selected, it's easy enough to back up & reselect User-defined mode to proceed. --g
 
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I think i'm going to have to abort I feel like i'm risking a brick when i really don't care about the NAV function anyway. The only reason i wanted to get it to work was to get my compass and altitude functions anyway 😆
I've read all i can read and i just don't understand what the correct process is for loading the maps. Nothing lines up with what i'm seeing. No matter if i select user defined or standard the only files that want to download are the navipersistance and Map styles......those are the only ones that ever get a Y next to them when proceeding with update. All the rest are N/A. The whole update process takes about 1 minute as it loads those files, then reboots and loads some more stuff for about 1 minute, then i hit cancel documentation and the RNS reboots and nothing has changed.

I'm going to clone my samsung spinner over to the SSD and hopefully that should "Just work" and i'm perfectly happy to leave it at that.
 
#78 ·
There is a huge threat on here, it's probably 30 pages, that has all kinds of map updates and whatnot but I'm not sure if that would be helpful
 
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DrGER said:
You should be able to install Lysy's repackaging of the Audi NAR 6.24.0 update directly.
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That's unknown. It's very probable that he has old acios_db.ini file in his MU and my maps will work without preinstalling V12, but it's not always only a matter of this file. Rebuilding acios_db.ini file in every case I had didn't work. Even manually.

N/A is due the fact that NAV partition is probably not available. Go into Green Menu, delete NAV partition first, then try to install maps.

Cloning is the last thing You want to do. I was there and had proper source, trust me.

And the last thing; have You made proper partitions with the QNX VM and @DrGER script? If no - don't be surprised...
 
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