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So what hardware is changed out in a 2009 model. My dpf is on the blink so am curious what equipment is changed out in the process. I know there are software changes but is any hardware replaced?

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So what hardware is changed out in a 2009 model. My dpf is on the blink so am curious what equipment is changed out in the process. I know there are software changes but is any hardware replaced?

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I’ve searched the net and can’t locate anything on this. Surely someone has information on this? Help please....


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OK So my dealer just Called me and said that the update for an 09 is just software and no hardware equipment. Does this sound correct? The DPF replacement is going to be $1300. Thoughts?


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What are your state''s emission controls like?

Could you delete the DPF and remap the car to give it a bit more go?
 
Unless something has happened in the last several months, I don't think VW has a fix for the 2009-2013 TREGs. I sold my 2012 back with no fix at the time which was june this yr. My understanding was that generation needed a hardware change. With so few cars in the group I think VW just paid a ton the get the cars sold back to them and get them off the road. I was stunned at the buy back price for my car.
 
Unless something has happened in the last several months, I don't think VW has a fix for the 2009-2013 TREGs. I sold my 2012 back with no fix at the time which was june this yr. My understanding was that generation needed a hardware change. With so few cars in the group I think VW just paid a ton the get the cars sold back to them and get them off the road. I was stunned at the buy back price for my car.
There is a "fix" now. 2009-2012. Been hearing lots of problems with dealers not even being able to upload software for those years and vehicles in the shop for weeks at a time.

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Glad to hear something is being done,but why would you fix your 8 or 9 yr old treg when you can turn it in and get a "new " 2016 TDI for almost nothing? My new 2016 had 1000 miles on it and cost me $1500.with my trade in 2012 TDI with 60,000 miles. Sounded like a no brainer to me.
 
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The issue I see is that here they still bring good money plus it’s my favorite vehicle I’ve had. So if I do buy back then what will I get? I want a diesel so feel I have limited options.


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Glad to hear something is being done,but why would you fix your 8 or 9 yr old treg when you can turn it in and get a "new " 2016 TDI for almost nothing? My new 2016 had 1000 miles on it and cost me $1500.with my trade in 2012 TDI with 60,000 miles. Sounded like a no brainer to me.


Are there still any new ones like that around? It maybe to late for me to change now but will check.


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Yes, diesel options in the US market in the Touareg class of vehicle are very limited. I faced that decision recently when I sold my Touareg back to VW. I went with a MB GLE350, but was originally intent on a diesel when I started my search.

Options would be VW, MB, BMW or Audi diesel SUVs. The VWs and Audis would be subject to the potential problems you are experiencing. MB has their own set of issues with diesel. Some people don't have any issues, some do. I have no experience with BMW diesels in the US market.

Search Cargurus.com for a diesel SUV in your budget. There are likely to be options if you expand your search large enough, geographically speaking.
 
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So I found some 2015-2016 TDI with 30-50k miles. It’s either a lux or executive in black color. What price range should be reasonable? They are all over the map from 25k-42k. Thanks


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On Cargurus.com, the vehicle with your parameters has examples with asking price from $28k - $38k, in a 200 mile radius of Raleigh, NC. Cargurus is a reasonable picture of market price. I recently bought a car that I found on Cargurus. No complaints, it's a good tool to shop with.

A 500 mile radius of Raleigh comes up with vehicles ranging from $23k to $45k.

A nationwide search comes up with $23k to $49k.

If you go down the Cargurus route, get your own CarFax report, inspect and test drive the car.
 
On Cargurus.com, the vehicle with your parameters has examples with asking price from $28k - $38k, in a 200 mile radius of Raleigh, NC. Cargurus is a reasonable picture of market price. I recently bought a car that I found on Cargurus. No complaints, it's a good tool to shop with.

A 500 mile radius of Raleigh comes up with vehicles ranging from $23k to $45k.

A nationwide search comes up with $23k to $49k.

If you go down the Cargurus route, get your own CarFax report, inspect and test drive the car.
I researched CarGurus for a couple of months. It's a helpful tool for locating a Treg that meets your criteria. It also helps you get a sense of the year/mileage/price equation as it applies to the Touaregs. I never quite understood their rating system but, as you say, pricing varies greatly by region, and because of the unique nature of "Dieselgate", and the VW buyback, the depreciation formulas don't seem to apply to these cars the way you would think.

I think the sellers are using pent up demand to their advantage, Along with the flawed logic that somehow a "new 2016 Tdi" with very low mileage is indeed "new". When in fact those 2016s are heading into the 2019 model year. Don't forget that many, if not most of the quarantined Tregs have been parked out in the desert for the last couple of years. And not all of them have been refitted with new "perishables" i.e. tires, hoses, batteries, etc.
However, the "fixed" Tdis come with a GREAT! settlement warranty that should cover most of the emission issues. Oddly, drivability doesn't seen to be one of them.

The fact that there is no 2019 Treg available in the states, and no more Tdis at all, these are the last of their kind. Perhaps, this justifies the the current price structure. Hopefully the demand will continue to support the premium pricing going forward.

It's kinda sad that the Touaregs, new and old, didn't get the attention they deserved, until they were discontinued. I've owned 3 Tregs. And plan on keeping at least one in the garage for a long time to come.
 
DPF DELETE

Hi Sawtooth, I have a 2011 V6TDI Touareg, recently had the DPF and EGR removed, an engine remap, nav map update, redarc brake controller installed by some amazing guys located at Maroochydore Sunshine Coast Queensland Australia.

Will be going back soon so they can fit a reversing camera on the back of the caravan that will integrate with the Toureg screen in the dashboard, this eliminates the need to mount other stuff that blocks your vision out the front.

They specialize in Euro cars, hence the name of the business Euro Car Upgrades.
Martin (owner) and all his guys have at some time in their past worked at the various dealers in Europe, so they do bring a wealth of knowledge and experience to enhancing the various Euro branded cars.

I have spent almost $11k with them getting my Touareg ready to tow a large caravan on a winding variable journey to Tasmania, so far the results have been subtle but when needed there is an amazing amount of grunt on tap. Went for test tow last week and found it easy to overtake other large vehicles.

Suggest you contact them as they have connections in Europe and possibly the USA.
 
There is a "fix" now. 2009-2012. Been hearing lots of problems with dealers not even being able to upload software for those years and vehicles in the shop for weeks at a time.

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Mine was in for a day and was returned to me working just fine. I personally have not heard of this myself.
 
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