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The past weekend I ventured south to the Anza-Borrego Desert. This arid location lies well east of San Diego and covers a large area from Interstate 8 up to the areas west of the Salton Sea. This area, like Moab, was created from huge expanses of ancient seas now connected by the Colorado River.

Last year VegasMatt, another Matt, and I were guided by FJ Ollie and tailgunner FrogEye through Canyon Sin Nobre, the Diablo area, and Split Rock.
Coverage of this trip can be found here -
http://www.clubtouareg.com/forums/f66/anza-borrego-southern-california-november-22-a-20437.html

Both FJ Ollie and FrogEye have very well-built rigs, as do many in the Outdoor Adventure USA group. OAUSA is not vehicle specific - there are many Jeeps, Hummers, even some other Touaregs have joined their adventures. However one look around and you'll notice a definite bias to FJ Cruisers.

This trip was centered on BorregoFest, OAUSA's annual weekend in the desert. About 30-40 rigs were out there on several trails throughout the region - from Truckhaven to Coyote Canyon to a guided trip to the the mines near Julian CA.

I chose the Carrizo Mountain - Painted Gorge run. This area was in and around the community of Ocotillo CA, just off Interstate 8 very close to the Mexican border. The desert floor was near or below sea level, with the peak at 2400'. We would climb over 2000' to park just a short hike to the top. On our way there, we would travel through Painted Gorge.

The trek up Carrizo Mountain - wow - put foot-size boulders and talus and steps along an unforgivng shelf road with 2000' drops and the sensory overload is intense! There were places that were very narrow, with the Touareg hugging the wall. And there was plenty of air-lift action as I switched from Offroad to Xtra to get over boulders, and just soon enough back to Offroad to lower the center of gravity.

Views from the top - spectacular! From the top one could see across the desert east to the Salton Sea, or south to Mexico. Closer, we could see the extreme switchbacks of Cliffhanger trail, a super-narrow steep switchback look that our trailboss BorregoWrangler and FJ Ollie had run this past summer... for experienced offroaders who play on Mesa cliffs and eat up Black Bear, this was an ultimate. We were not going to play there.

Back down, we played in an OHV Sand area with big dune hills, then lunch under a wooden bridge. Then back on the old road 80, quickly disentegrating into a trail that follows the right-of-way of the old San Diego and Eastern. This trail is Dos Cabezas and it leads high into the hills loosely following the SD & E into Carrizo Canyon. Crossing the tracks twice, we completed the trail at a steep drop-off at Norito Wash.

Later in the evening after potluck dinner and a raffle, a dozen vehicles ventured up Rodriguez Canyon. Lots of rock in parts.. Quite fun in the dark.

Photos - First the Adventure

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Painted Gorge

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Lower section of Carrizo Mountain ascent.

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Rocky Shelf road

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Look to the right - it is a long way down!

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Summit

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Cliffhanger Trail as viewed from the Summit

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The desert to the east

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Our trail boss leads the way down.

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Stay ON THE TRAIL!!!
 
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More Photos - the Touareg on the trail as seen from other members of the run.

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Drop-off into Norito Wash

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Top of the drop off. Big Steps, ruts down. Time to test the Touareg clearance and Independent suspension. Photo courtesy OAUSA / BorregoWrangler

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Arkarch's Touareg comes down the drop! Nothing fancy. Just follow the carved line. Photo courtesy OAUSA / BorregoWrangler

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From the back, as seen from "Amaezing" (the white Trail Team FJ). Photo courtesy OAUSA.

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Peppercorn Slot. Photo courtesy OAUSA / BorregoWrangler

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Some big rocks on Dos Cabezas Trail

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Off Carrizo Mountain.
 
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Night Time Shots in Rodriguez Canyon

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I see the 09 Voorrra can forget about having an easy life... Let him work!!! That's what he's designed to do!!! ;)

Great shots. Seems like you had fun.... again.... as usual.... ;)
 
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I see the 09 Voorrra can forget about having an easy life... Let him work!!! That's what he's designed to do!!! ;)

Great shots. Seems like you had fun.... again.... as usual.... ;)
Gave the '09 a bath last night. Cleans up real well.. and Alaska Gray hides any pin-striping well. I got a couple.. rather minor actually considering I had to push through soft brush in Rodriguez Canyon. A little bit light cut solution should have those gone quickly.

Yeah, some can't imagine taking our vehicles out there with the damage risk. However for all the offroading in my retired 2006, the worse damage I got came from shopping center parking lots and mechanic shops. Ok, the rockers got beat up, but thats just the cost of tires to fix.

So I say - get out there and have fun!!! Learn to do it properly - dont go after the biggest hill first time.. but find a way to learn and find your own adventures.

As for me, two new things this trip -

Climbing over Railroad tracks. The Dos Cabezas / Norito Wash trail crossed over the old San Diego and Eastern tracks a few times, so we had to do open-rail cross-overs. I dont think a steel-suspended would be happy. And even in an air - there really was no gray area. You had to get up over the rail and then almost no room to balance, so dropping back down was a certainty. No hits.

I also made a minor judgement error going down those dunes. Once I was 2/3 to 3/4 down the steep drop I "let go" so to speak and got some speed, only to notice another quick up and dip ahead. Hit the brakes - and as the Offroad ABS banged away (and it does bang away!!) - wow. Touareg slowed, I had nothing in front of me, I just didnt want to slam the suspension down that hard. Left a big grin nevertheless.

That and of course learning to use the Xtreme settings judiciously. Learned that earlier, just more up and down this trip.

Whew..

Been a hard two weekends. I'll be at Vegas Valley's Hump-n-Bump in Logandale NV the weekend after SEMA. I plan to take a scenic trail :)
 
Great write ups and pics! Thanks for sharing. Bow Down

Curious to know what kind of angle you ran across the rails. I can live to tell & laugh about a couple of active-rail crossings. (To be young & stupid! #-o)
 
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Curious to know what kind of angle you ran across the rails. I can live to tell & laugh about a couple of active-rail crossings. (To be young & stupid! #-o)
Directly across.

Not a very active route.

There are many very active routes I would never do that with.
 
Directly across.

Not a very active route.

There are many very active routes I would never do that with.
Thanks.

It sounded like you were on an abandoned railbed.

With the benefit of hindsight (good sense), I completely agree.
 
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Sometimes the best line is the direct line or the popular line.

When I was in that drop later in my photo sequence, I could have tried something 'tricky' to get more space for the Independent Suspension 'tilt' on uneven ground. In the end, I just told the spotter - "straight thru". At least we understood the geometry.

Same way with the tracks, going at it from an angle would introduce more variables that we could not easily predict. Straight across is the correct way. And in places like Moab, always square up to steep climb or descent, to avoid your back end or front end coming around.
 
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It sounded like you were on an abandoned railbed.
Just researched - originally San Diego and Arizona Easter tracks. Tracks now operated by the Carrizo Gorge Railway.. mostly supplies for cement - sand, etc. Small fleet of older engines.

I'd say its infrequent traffic, and slow.. still, not something to get caught up on. The height of the Air-lifted Touareg comfortably cleared these old SD & AE tracks.

Modern mainline tracks that have cement ties will have higher clearance issues - enough to get caught on. Dont need six GE Dash-9's barreling down on me. No thanks!
 
Sometimes the best line is the direct line or the popular line.

When I was in that drop later in my photo sequence, I could have tried something 'tricky' to get more space for the Independent Suspension 'tilt' on uneven ground. In the end, I just told the spotter - "straight thru". At least we understood the geometry.

Same way with the tracks, going at it from an angle would introduce more variables that we could not easily predict. Straight across is the correct way. And in places like Moab, always square up to steep climb or descent, to avoid your back end or front end coming around.
Great advice, especially because it comes from practical experience in the Treg. Thanks Arkarch!

My offroading has mainly been in body-on-frame vehicles. Most had stock or slightly lifted but fixed steel suspension. But their articulation typically kept all four wheels planted on uneven ground. So I learned to cross breaks in terrain at an angle to keep from bottoming.

I think I'm starting to understand the trade-offs of the Treg's unibody stiffness, though. Running up or down slope at an angle may be OK with all four wheels planted. But doing so while crossing uneven terrain that picks up one (or more) of those wheels could break the others' hold and make for a bad day.

Thanks again--Chris
 
Modern mainline tracks that have cement ties will have higher clearance issues - enough to get caught on. Dont need six GE Dash-9's barreling down on me. No thanks!
Been there, done that (in a long-gone pickup). Probably lucky to walk away. Pretzeled an x-member, but it kept the transfer case from being filleted. Not one of the brighter things I've done... ](*,)
 
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Great advice, especially because it comes from practical experience in the Treg. Thanks Arkarch!

My offroading has mainly been in body-on-frame vehicles. Most had stock or slightly lifted but fixed steel suspension. But their articulation typically kept all four wheels planted on uneven ground. So I learned to cross breaks in terrain at an angle to keep from bottoming.

I think I'm starting to understand the trade-offs of the Treg's unibody stiffness, though. Running up or down slope at an angle may be OK with all four wheels planted. But doing so while crossing uneven terrain that picks up one (or more) of those wheels could break the others' hold and make for a bad day.

Thanks again--Chris
One of the key first lessons in Touareg offroading is learning about being on three or even two (cross-wise) wheels. Find a good bit of uneven dirt and run your vehicle at an angle - and just watch as one of your front or back wheels lifts super-high. Find someone to ride the tire for that sea-saw effect. Whats amazing is that the Touareg is super-stiff - no twisting at all. Its uncomfortable at first - but I now go for record-setting heights!

When I have run angles, I then know what to expect from that.

Just an aside note on the no-twist - that is one of the prime issues of FJ Cruisers - they do have issues doing that, leading to deformed geometry that messes with wheel wells and windshields. (yes, they are solid-axle back, but IS front)
 
One of the key first lessons in Touareg offroading is learning about being on three or even two (cross-wise) wheels. Find a good bit of uneven dirt and run your vehicle at an angle - and just watch as one of your front or back wheels lifts super-high. Find someone to ride the tire for that sea-saw effect. Whats amazing is that the Touareg is super-stiff - no twisting at all. Its uncomfortable at first - but I now go for record-setting heights!

When I have run angles, I then know what to expect from that.

Just an aside note on the no-twist - that is one of the prime issues of FJ Cruisers - they do have issues doing that, leading to deformed geometry that messes with wheel wells and windshields. (yes, they are solid-axle back, but IS front)
Good points, thanks. Will try to do wheel lifts the next time I run a small ledge on a favorite trail in NH. (Or sooner if I can find a good piece of uneven ground locally.)

That's a bummer about the FJ's, but I guess not too big a surprise. Unless you're in a pickup, seems kind of hard to 'have your cake (frame flex) and eat it too (no body twist).'
 
I'm still gearing up, bought a set of 18's to use in place of the 19's, then I had to find another matching 18 as a spare, ordered the Hankooks that I hope will fit... Still looking for a topside cargo basket to carry the spare and jack etc. I hope to be playing offroad soon.:cool:
 
Not to thread jack, but a matching 17" Makalu as a spare is one of my next project's too. As soon as I get a 1) properly sized hitch bar and 2) pet partition net. :cool:
 
I'm still gearing up, bought a set of 18's to use in place of the 19's, then I had to find another matching 18 as a spare, ordered the Hankooks that I hope will fit... Still looking for a topside cargo basket to carry the spare and jack etc. I hope to be playing offroad soon.:cool:
You don't plan on getting a high lift jack like you see guys with Jeeps carry I hope. You have no way to use one of those if you get one on the Touareg. If you want a jack that will help you out you need to get an airbag jack.
 
Not to thread jack, but a matching 17" Makalu as a spare is one of my next project's too. As soon as I get a 1) properly sized hitch bar and 2) pet partition net. :cool:
I won't be looking for a spare Makalu, since I already have a spare Canyon. I really don't care if it matches, just need something to get me off the trail if need be. :)
 
You don't plan on getting a high lift jack like you see guys with Jeeps carry I hope. You have no way to use one of those if you get one on the Touareg. If you want a jack that will help you out you need to get an airbag jack.

I spent a few hours reaerching airbag 'jacks' online. They are pretty big (21X21 was one of the medium sized ones) and although light, but they Have very little 'travel'. Like 6" or so:confused: You could stack 2 of them together but they are like $300-$500 each so thats a tough way to go. The high lift jacks have a hitch reciever option. Not sure why that work for the rear. To lift from the wheels I have D ringed tie down straps I use for holding down cars on trailers. Slip one end thru the spokes at the top of the wheel, then put both rings together and using the hook on the jack it seems like it'd be perfect. Is there another way you've found?
 
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