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2007 V-6 Touareg 113k miles - bad timing chain?

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My cousin bought a 07 v-6 gas Touareg about 5 months ago. It quit on her while driving home one night about a month ago. Got it to a local shop where they diagnosed it with bad timing chains...and a $9k bill to fix it. So we declined and got it towed back home where it sits currently...my question is this...is it worth the work of going through it all and fixing it or should we cut our loss and just scrap the vehicle? It's in otherwise pretty decent shape. Not perfect by any means but a decent car. Attached are a few pics of it. Any advice or suggestions are appreciated. Thanks all!
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It all depends on what damage is done. 9K sounds like top end of high dealer prices to me. What local shop? I take it not a dealer. Is it a least a Euro shop?

Have you looked into putting an engine from a recycle yard? Have you looked to see if a re-manufactured engine is available.

I have not priced it, but I would not expect a rebuilt engine to even cost 9K. I am having a real problem with that price.

IMO, It is going to need to go to a second garage for a second opinion.

If you can be specific on what the damage is, we might be able to give a better guess.

This link is a $1066 used engine.
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The shop we took it to is called World Wide Automotive Service in Bloomington, IN. They are not a dealer and they do work on mostly Euro cars. I also brought it to a friend of mine who has been a mechanic for a long time and has all kinds of Euro car certifications (VW, BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, etc.) He said that there are several timing chains and they are all on the transmission side of the engine and changing them is very labor intensive. He said their quote to change the timing chains was a little high and he wasn't really interested in doing it as a side job because he works for the Army now as a mechanic and doesn't have his own shop at home to do it in.

So that's where we are now... should I try to fix it or just sell it as is to someone or scrap it to a junkyard or whatever else...

I know that I'd be capable of doing the work as I've done a few engine rebuilds, head gaskets, etc....but not on anything from Europe...So I'm not sure of any specialty tools or anything I'd need to get the job done. I'd still think that a replacement engine would be easiest but I also don't want to get in over my head and not be able to get things back together.

Thoughts and opinions??? Offers to buy?? Haha!
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At 9K, you might as well price out a replacement engine from VW.

There are some discussions on here. It is a long and involved rebuild. I would not want to do it personally. Are there any other shops to get a quote from in your area?

Replacement rebuilt engine would be my choice. Send that one back as a core.

If no rebuilt engines are available, engine from a recycle yard.
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This engine was originally designed to be installed sideways in the engine bay as in East-West.

In the Touareg it was turned through 90 degrees but in doing so it was installed back to front as in South-North thus, as you already know, the timing chain is at the rear end of the block.

If you have small hands it is possible to change the chain without removing the engine but usually it's an engine out job which shouldn't cost more than around $2,500 to remove, do the chain and replace.

Given the $9K quote I'm wondering if there is way more damage than just replacing the chain.

If so, then as above, a used or remanufactured engine is probably the best way forward if the car''s value when it's been fixed makes it worthwhile when taking the cost of the repair into account.

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I'm sure the local junkyard will have some parts. You can get another car for 9k.

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Hey everyone,
My cousin bought a 07 v-6 gas Touareg about 5 months ago. It quit on her while driving home one night about a month ago. Got it to a local shop where they diagnosed it with bad timing chains...and a $9k bill to fix it. So we declined and got it towed back home where it sits currently...my question is this...is it worth the work of going through it all and fixing it or should we cut our loss and just scrap the vehicle? It's in otherwise pretty decent shape. Not perfect by any means but a decent car. Attached are a few pics of it. Any advice or suggestions are appreciated. Thanks all!
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Get some friends and a bunch of pizza\beer..... spend a weekend and pull the engine yourselves..... the labor of pulling the motor is the killer.
Once you have it out, there will be many shops\mechanics\sources for a rebuild or repair...... then repeat step 1 and drop in back in......

You'll be surprised at how much you will learn in the process.
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At the same time, you can probably find a more cosmetically beat up specimen with a running engine for only a few K and possibly buy it for the engine..... then either pay a mechanic to swap it over or take the pizza\beer approach........ either way, any fixing attempt will set you back more than the vehicle is worth.....

It all comes down to how much you like the vehicle, and how long you plan on keeping it..... because it will take many years of driving it to recoup the cost of fixing it now.
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Any similar job on 7K vehicle is kinda of a death sentence. It's a serious investment. You need to be emotionally involved into that vehicle or seeking the fun of working on a car (dont know how fun it will be after the first couple days...)

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At the same time, you can probably find a more cosmetically beat up specimen with a running engine for only a few K and possibly buy it for the engine..... then either pay a mechanic to swap it over or take the pizza\beer approach........ either way, any fixing attempt will set you back more than the vehicle is worth.....

It all comes down to how much you like the vehicle, and how long you plan on keeping it..... because it will take many years of driving it to recoup the cost of fixing it now.

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Wow, I only paid 5,500 for my 2007 v6 a few weeks ago. 9k is way over priced

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