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3.0 TDI tunes, power upgrades and turbo upgrades

So I see a lot of discussion about trans mods.


I'm also curious about what tunes are available and trans mods for the T3.


I'd like to upgrade my'13 to 330 HP if possible. Has anyone done this if so what can they tell me?


Best options? what to look out for etc...


I'm considering the kermi upgrade but its a little light on power. What I really want I guess is a bigger torque band vs peak HP.


Has anyone tried any of these options?




Also has anyone done a turbo upgrade (more curiosity on my part on this one). I've read about a 400 HP 3.0 TDI in an A5 and A7 but not in the US...
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I'd like to upgrade my'13 to 330 HP if possible.
How did you come up with that output? I think all the tunes I've seen (not that I've looked a whole lot) just crack into the 300s.... anything past that needs snail upgrading and then the injection system become the limiting factor if I'm not mistaken.

There's at least one of two users around here who are running tunes.... I'm not sure I've read of anyone doing dyno runs or seen any such charts to confirm any gains claimed by the tuners....
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You'd be correct turboABA. I've also got a special tune im saving for the first local tuner meet.

- Euro Paddle Shifter Steering wheel retrofit
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Disclaimer - My 3L is bone stock!

Now, from what I know about FI and how these things work, and from all the past experiences of modifying and blowing things up, you guys are being vague AF

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Based on that signature, you have some supporting mods that should put you near the afore-mentioned 300hp output (crank).
I have no idea what that drivetrain loss is on the Touaregs, but I'd sure love to see a dyno chart of both a stock unit, and your modified one.

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Initially, you say you want more PEAK HP output, but then later on in the same post, you say you want a broader torque curve..... this is a contradiction right there.....
VW engineered this "broad" torque curve given the limitations they had to work with.... (read EPA regulations). A turbo can only spool up so fast, based on various factors, including (but not limited to) airflow, inertia and rotational mass of components. It will be very difficult to gain all the extra HP you're after while trying to maintain the existing early torque & driveability, even if you're willing to throw out any emission compliance. The turbo is already sized on the small size, uses variable vanes, etc to provide the best of both worlds...... without getting into things like dual turbos, compound turbo setups, propane injection or increased displacement, you will not be able to gain much without giving up low end grunt.

I don't want to go into lecture mode here, but I'm hoping you know enough about what you're asking for and what I'm saying to get "my drift". There are some decent gains to be had by some fine tuning and small modifications which will definetly give you some extra grunt, but if you're taking about crazy gain expectations, you will have to spend crazy money and give up all sorts of driveability\reliability and simplicity to get there.
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When my buddy takes his mustang to the dyno next ill run mine and post it.

- Euro Paddle Shifter Steering wheel retrofit
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- Malone stg 2 tune
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Here's a jumping off point for you guys trying to extract additional power out of your rigs...... just something I came across

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My Malone stage 2 is 305bhp. Dpf/scr delete should bump it up slightly. Iím more than happy with how powerful it is, I doubt Iíll change much more engine wise. Iím gonna dyno it at Malone soon.

If I really wanna have fun, Iíve got my supercharged 16v mk1.

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If I really wanna have fun, Iíve got my supercharged 16v mk1.
I really hope you have some serious tires on that......otherwise.....


My Mk3 when it was only 8v was useless in the first two gears and I would get my doors blown off by a city bus from a dig.... (turbo too... so "laggy" compared to your SC setup)
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id say mines close if not over 330

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id say mines close if not over 330
Stock snail? What supporting mods?
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