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I just ran into this same issue. A few things to try before you go damaging the lug bolt.


First, there appear (to my knowledge) to be two anti-theft lug styles. The first type is something that looks like an internal spline on the lug bolt and an external spline on the lug tool (my Mk4 Jetta has this style, and the VW Dealer lists something similar for Touareg as well). The second type has a milled pattern on it (usually curvy) and a mating lug key.


Which style are you talking about (or is it something else)?


My '13 has the swirly style. Recently a tire changer managed to torque the wheels wrong by hand and messed up the lug in the tightening direction. I was able to use a hammer and 1/4" chissel to sort of fix the key, and the bolt enough to remove it. I didn't want to risk further damage so ordered another set of lugs.

The locking lugs I have could probably work with the socket trick. Most people I have seen can hammer a 12 point deep socket over the outer diameter of the socket and it would work.



The spline drive style the same thing may (or may not) work. I know they make lug removal tools that also may or may not work.


There is also the option of drilling them off with a large drill bit as explained in this post: https://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?3207133


I've had a similar problem present itself with stainless allen head screws. If you have a decent welder nearby you can wire brush the zinc plating off the lug and weld a nut or piece of 3/8" square bar stock to the lug and that should (hopefully) be enough to remove it. If you do weld its probably best to put a few layers of masking tape over the wheel and perhaps even spray anti-spatter (whatever you want to call it) to avoid weld spatter and to also only weld for 15-20 seconds at a time and allow time for the part to cool to avoid over heating the wheel and damaging the finish. Also probably best to keep a fire extinguisher handy.
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Mine is like your first picture or the picture below. I think it would take a while to try and fix the pattern to have the key fit. I just have to get the collar off then the 3/4" e-socket should get the bolt off.
I don't care about damaging the head of the locking bolt. I'm not putting them back on.


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Drill a hole in the center.
Use a bolt\stud extractor to back it out.
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Drill a hole in the center.
Use a bolt\stud extractor to back it out.

I think this method would have worked if the torque monkeys hadn't used an air impact to tighten them.
I use easy outs a lot and I'm betting it would snap before being useful in this situation.


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I think this method would have worked if the torque monkeys hadn't used an air impact to tighten them.
I use easy outs a lot and I'm betting it would snap before being useful in this situation.


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Use the proper ones.... not China Mickey Mouse stuff....... stubbies similar to this..... hardened tool steel, etc......
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Cobra-1-1-8...ool/1000063165

If you break those, you're using them wrong......
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P.S. that's just a quick visual.... you need the bolt extractors..... but in the very short size.....
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I went through a tough time, when I was swapping my 2012 20" Pikes Peak wheels for a set of 2004 Cayenne Turbo 17" wheels/tires, the lock had been stripped by the previous tire change moron.

I had tried banging a socket on and that was no luck.

I got an emergency locking lug nut removing socket which has threads on the inside of it, much like an ez-out but in reverse. After much effort, the emergency socket worked and I was able to get the round lugnut with the puzzle-face, off. It was a PITA but I got it.

I had to damage the round collar that goes around the bolt enough so that the threads of the emergency socket could get a bite on the bolt and once I was able to get that to happen, the e-socket was able to get the bolt out.
I have the same issue on my 911 in the garage with a blow out. Waiting for 4 new lugs and tossing the locks in the garbage. I'm heading to Harbor Freight now. Thanks.
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Mine is like your first picture or the picture below. I think it would take a while to try and fix the pattern to have the key fit. I just have to get the collar off then the 3/4" e-socket should get the bolt off.
I don't care about damaging the head of the locking bolt. I'm not putting them back on.
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How bad were they?
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https://www.grainger.com/product/12P...!g!82128472797!


https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/screw...ctors/4236685/






Actually now that I think of it I think I used one of my tripple squares as a bolt extractor. Just have to drill the hole the correct size and hammer it in.
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