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Finally...new brakes

Well I finally took the Treg in to replace the brake pads. After inspection of the rotors the tech said they're good for another go with the new pads.
I decided to with Textar pads all around and Woking wear sensor wires. I'm curious to see what pads were on there.

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New brakes went in a couple of days ago and I'm following Textar's advice on braking in, or bedding, the new pads. Basically just take it easy for the first 200kms.

I did ask for the old pads back, and to my surprise, they were Pagid made Brembos!!! They still had a bit on them so I didn't need to change them just yet. We'll see now how the Textars compare to the Brembos.
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It shouldnt be a surprise given the number of tines I have posted that Brembo pads are made by PAGID!

However I read elsewhere the other day that Brembo nay have a new/additional supplier.

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Generation 1: T1 is model 7LA & facelift T2 is model 7L6
Generation 2: T3 is model 7P5 & facelift T4 is model 7P6
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Or the other way around. Typically Brembo makes pads and rotors for other companies. But it does not matter, Pagid are the best IMO for the touareg. Textar and TRW are good as well, TRW does put off a lot of dust FYI.

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Brembo don't have any friction material manufacturing capability to make pads for anyone including themselves.

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For whatever it's worth, the OEM front pads that just came out on my 11 VR6 had the shape as the ones in your 09 and also had the Brembo name on them but the DOT code was "FF" and not "GG" like yours. I will try to post a picture in near future.

As it has been pointed out to me by another forum member the T3 platform has different friction material specification than the T2 platform even though the pads are interchangeable mechanically.

If you put the Pagid pads (GG) in your T3 there is a a lot more initial bit when pedal is applied that takes some getting used to.
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It shouldnt be a surprise given the number of tines I have posted that Brembo pads are made by PAGID!

However I read elsewhere the other day that Brembo nay have a new/additional supplier.
I knew that. My surprise was because the previous owner had installed relatively expensive Brembo pads while going cheap with solid engine mounts instead of the hydraulic type. I didn't even know they made solid mounts for the Touareg till my mechanic buddy told me that's what was on the car and that's why the engine doesn't feel as smooth (they're still new but I plan to swap them out with hydraulics later this summer).

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For whatever it's worth, the OEM front pads that just came out on my 11 VR6 had the shape as the ones in your 09 and also had the Brembo name on them but the DOT code was "FF" and not "GG" like yours. I will try to post a picture in near future.
Was able to get some pictures of the pads that were removed from our 11 VR6 and I think they were either original or redone by VW dealer CPO when we bought the Touareg with 43K in June 2014.
These pads are made in USA do I doubt they are made by Pagid and have the DOT "FF" rating.
Touareg_Front Pads_3 by Robert Prato, on Flickr[/IMG]
Touareg_Front Pads_2 by Robert Prato, on Flickr[/IMG]
The part # on this pad (7L6.615.115.H) does not match up to VW parts base P/N for this car (7P6-698-151-F), is it possible this pad is made exclusively for VW in US and supplied to Brembo in Europe to be put into the caliper assembly they supply the plant that makes the Touareg ?
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For whatever it's worth, the OEM front pads that just came out on my 11 VR6 had the shape as the ones in your 09 and also had the Brembo name on them but the DOT code was "FF" and not "GG" like yours. I will try to post a picture in near future.
Was able to get some pictures of the pads that were removed from our 11 VR6 and I think they were either original or redone by VW dealer CPO when we bought the Touareg with 43K in June 2014.
These pads are made in USA do I doubt they are made by Pagid and have the DOT "FF" rating.
Touareg_Front Pads_3 by Robert Prato, on Flickr[/IMG]

Touareg_Front Pads_2 by Robert Prato, on Flickr[/IMG]

The part # on this pad (7L6.615.115.H) does not match up to VW parts base P/N for this car (7P6-698-151-F), is it possible this pad is made exclusively for VW in US and supplied to Brembo in Europe to be put into the caliper assembly they supply the plant that makes the Touareg ?
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I knew that. My surprise was because the previous owner had installed relatively expensive Brembo pads while going cheap with solid engine mounts instead of the hydraulic type. I didn't even know they made solid mounts for the Touareg till my mechanic buddy told me that's what was on the car and that's why the engine doesn't feel as smooth (they're still new but I plan to swap them out with hydraulics later this summer).
Problem is there is too much aftermarket junk out there for all Vw's. I sell parts for a different brand and there is not a lot of aftermarket with those but the solid mounts offered always suck. I always recommend the hydraulic OEM to my customers. Solid mounts make the vehicle definitely vibrate more and end up failing sooner. I always say stick to OEM parts, especially in the VAG market. Pay more for the proper and more quality of part. Even my mechanic friend who works on high end cars and worked on Ferrari race team always says stick with OEM with VAG.

My point about Brembo and I should have been more clear but Brembo makes rotors/parts for most OEM's to Aftermarket white box.

Anyway, stick with OEM parts or OEM Manuf. in plain box or marked (i.e, TRW, Lemforder (DE), etc...). Most aftermarket are junk (i.e, Meyle).

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