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Calling chewblekka. Need rear air input.

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Since you've done the full airstrut retrofit, I'd like to pick your brain on an idea......

If I'm not completely wrong, air springs exist that will just "hopefully" slide over my existing gas struts.
I'm only interested in the rears to allow me to eliminate rear squat when towing. If the OEM air springs can fit the regular gas struts, I'm hoping I can replace my steel springs and have a more crude system (instead of the fully integrated air suspension). I realize that I wouldn't have full adjustability or dampening control like with the real thing..... but I could potentially just drive around with 30psi(or whatever) in the springs during normal use, and then I'd bump them up to 50psi or whatever when I'm towing.

Or do the air struts only slide over the corresponding OEM "air" struts?
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chewblekka

Since you've done the full airstrut retrofit, I'd like to pick your brain on an idea......

If I'm not completely wrong, air springs exist that will just "hopefully" slide over my existing gas struts.
I'm only interested in the rears to allow me to eliminate rear squat when towing. If the OEM air springs can fit the regular gas struts, I'm hoping I can replace my steel springs and have a more crude system (instead of the fully integrated air suspension). I realize that I wouldn't have full adjustability or dampening control like with the real thing..... but I could potentially just drive around with 30psi(or whatever) in the springs during normal use, and then I'd bump them up to 50psi or whatever when I'm towing.

Or do the air struts only slide over the corresponding OEM "air" struts?



Only fit over air struts





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I don't think you can fit the OEM springs over non-OEM shocks, they seal onto the shock body. It's possible that I'm wrong, it's happened once before

You could run the complete rear bag assemblies and run a small compressor, but then you'd need to control the damping. No current is full hard, 1800mA is full soft. I suppose you could run a resistor and small rheostat somewhere so you could control on the fly.

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Is full hard silly stiff compared to the steel springs? You had stiffer than me steel springs since you started off with an Rline if I recall... Do you see massive difference? I will have to entertain the idea of running just the rear air shock as a complete unit I guess. There are all sorts of options in terms of small compressors and related controls (even wireless) but it's starting to sound like I wouldn't end up much cheaper butchering 1/2 truck this way and having a 1/2 ziptied solution vs doing a full blown retro like you and having everything working as it should be...... Crap. Rear air struts would work so much better than these BS WD hitches.
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Full hard is like no shock movement at all. Very stiff.

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I don't think you can fit the OEM springs over non-OEM shocks, they seal onto the shock body. It's possible that I'm wrong, it's happened once before

You could run the complete rear bag assemblies and run a small compressor, but then you'd need to control the damping. No current is full hard, 1800mA is full soft. I suppose you could run a resistor and small rheostat somewhere so you could control on the fly.
This is always an option, I was looking into this when I was thinking about using an adruino or something similar to control it.

Decided just to do the entire AS swap like Chewy.

Scored some Cayenne rears on E-Bay with less than 10k miles, and a brand new set of Bilstein B4 fronts again on E-Bay for 1/2 price.

The changed how to dynamic dampening works on the shocks/ struts. and luckily it's linear this time. The first revision was a mess. It all current controlled, so it's a PITA to control.

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Thanks for the info boyz.... looks like I'll have to do some shopping to see what I can grab. This seems like a viable solution to address the squat.
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Universal Air carries OEM type bags as well as custom designs
I've seen bags that go inside the standard springs with a hole down the middle for the strut..

I've seen them with 1, 2 and 3 bags for various lift sizes.
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