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Subframe bushings broken

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I had a problem with my 2005 R5 today. The front subrame bushings apparently got torn apart resulting in the subframe hanging Down in front. It happend during normal road driving in a turn. Has anybody experienced this before? By looking at the design it seems a bit fragile and also a bit strange that nothing keeps the subframe from hanging like this.
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I imagine the sub frames on the R5 and the V10 are similiar so maybe the comparison with my experience is relevant.

The dealer had to drop the engine on mine do do some work. When they put it back together they improperly torqued (read forgot to tighten) the subframe bolts. One day during a turn the car made a funny noise and the steering got all 'squishy'. When an independent shop looked at it, one bolt was completely gone and the threads in the body were stripped, two were loose and ready to fall out. The alignment was so far out the front tires were shot in 5 miles. Flat bedded it back to the dealer to fix! They did - had to do some fancy thread repair on the body. Took them months.
Has your engine ever been removed or any of the subframe bolts taken out and put back?

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I dont think the engine have been out or the bolts for the bushings have been removed. In my case all the bolts are fully in place, but the rubber on the front bushings have been completely teared of.
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I can't really tell much from your pic, and I barely know what I'm even looking at.
So are you saying that out of 4 subframe mounts, the "front" two are completely broken and your carrier is just dangling around?
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I see that I should have sketched around the bushing to make it a bit better to know what it is. The problem is that the two front bushings on the subframe are broken in the rubber part, resulting in that the subframe hangs down in front. Attached are a picture which gives a better view.
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You can change the bushes.

Remember that in normal use, for the subframe to move, all 4 bushes must deform.

Somebody messed up with the subframe in the past. They are very bulky items or some solvent or fuel deteriorated the bushings badly.

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I'd replace all four if I were you
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Agreed on the decomposition of the bushes - I think something must have got at them for a failure like that to occur which is pretty damned serious.

I don't recall seeing or reading of anything like it over the past 10 years or so.

As above, replace all four bushes and, from memory, I think they may be handed for each corner to check your parts needs carefully.

Here's a - hopefully - useful thread I started on this subject over 5 years ago.


You'll need a full 4 wheel laser alignment afterwards as well.

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Yes this was kind of shocking when I saw it after it happend. I imagine it could very bad if I had to brake hard. Yes I will replace all four bushings and also the rear control arm bushings. I cant see any traces of solvent or other chemicals, neither any mechanical damage underneath, aside from some scratches on the subframe. But I have not studied the bushings very carefully. I see that the rear subframe bushings has developed some small cracks in the rubber. I will look into the topic at mytreg and I have already joined there. Thank you so far with the inputs to my problem! I have also another problem with a P0304 misfire at idle but that I will maybe make another topic on. I recently bought this car so I guess I have had a bad start with my Touareg. My biggest concern with the misfire is if it can be the plasma coating peeling off, but I have done some relative compression tests which seems to look fine so I am crossing my fingers for something less expensive. Even though I am not 100% sure.
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