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Flashing Glow Plug, Limp Mode, EGR Valve Code

Hi All,

Just sharing some recent problems on my 2016 TDI. On long trips over the last month, I have had about 8 instances of the glow plug light flashing while cruising...accompanied by the engine going into limp mode (cannot produce power to accelerate from a stop or maintain highway speeds). Pulling to the side of the road and restarting the vehicle temporarily clears the problem. It's now happened about 8 times (4 on my last out of town trip).

The CEL light eventually illuminated and is latched on now. For the first 3-5 occurrences, there was no CEL light. I put my VAG COM on there today and pulled this code:

31982 - EGR Valve ( N18 )
P0403 00 [104] - Malfunction
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 8

Even though the CEL didn't turn on the first time I had a problem, the date/time of the first flashing glow plug incident matches the date/time on that code.

When this first happened, I was reminded of my 98 Jetta TDI's limp mode when EGR problems crept up there. I was surprised to find an EGR code in this case!

If you had a similar experience, let me know what you found. I saw some other "flashing glow plug" threads - but missed any referring to EGR codes and others talked about cold weather events (not the case here). I have an appointment scheduled with the dealer tomorrow. I'll provide an update in case this benefits others.

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It will be covered under the fix warranty, so no need to worry about it.
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Had the same problem. I have a 2016 TDI Executive. Was driving to San Antonio 2 weekends ago and felt loss of acceleration 100 miles into the trip. The yellow glow plug started blinking. Exited to the nearest gas station, restarted the engine after 5 minutes and the blinking glow plug disappeared. After 30 mins felt loss of acceleration and it started blinking again. Exited to the nearest gas station, restarted the engine and the yellow CEL came on instead. Brought to a dealership last Friday but I scanned my car before turning it in and got the following faults on my engine:

Address 01: Engine (J623-CNRB) Labels:. 059-907-401-V2.clb
Part No SW: 7P1 907 401 C HW: 7P0 907 401 K
Component: 3.0TDI FSA H21 0007
Revision: 56H21---
Coding: 292A4012237600050000
Shop #: WSC 25018 444 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM30TDI0117P1907401C 001008
ROD: EV_ECM30TDI0117P1907401C.rod
VCID: 302CD1A16B544ACA6D-8064

6 Faults Found:
4807 - EGR System
P0401 00 [096] - Insufficient Flow
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 96402 km
Date: 2019.05.30
Time: 20:00:54

Engine speed: 761.50 /min
Normed load value: 28.6 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 88 C
Intake air temperature: 40 C
Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 14.120 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
Mean injection quantity: 7.66 mg/stroke
Control Module temperature: 46.8 C
EGR_governor_deviation: -130.2 mg/stroke
Inj Ctl q Curr: 7.68 mg/stroke
Standardised airflow ratio: 1.2588
Air mass at air mass meter 1: 51.0 kg/h
Actual charge pressure: 1015 hPa

5171 - Boost Pressure Regulation
P0299 00 [096] - Control Range Not Reached
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 95954 km
Date: 2019.05.29
Time: 12:52:46

Engine speed: 1686.50 /min
Normed load value: 99.6 %
Vehicle speed: 103 km/h
Coolant temperature: 89 C
Intake air temperature: 38 C
Ambient air pressure: 980 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 14.320 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 37
Charge Pressure Actuator: activation: 95.90 %
Charge Pressure Actuator: acknowledgment: 96.44 %
Ambient temperature: 32.0 C
Charge air pressure specified value: 2541 hPa
Accelerator pedal travel: 58.90 %
Air mass: actual value (mg/stroke): 571.8 mg/stroke
Actual charge pressure: 1692 hPa

12896 - Boost Pressure Regulation
P0299 00 [032] - Control Range Not Reached
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 95954 km
Date: 2019.05.29
Time: 12:52:46

Engine speed: 1686.50 /min
Normed load value: 99.6 %
Vehicle speed: 103 km/h
Coolant temperature: 89 C
Intake air temperature: 38 C
Ambient air pressure: 980 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 14.320 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 37
Charge Pressure Actuator: activation: 95.90 %
Charge Pressure Actuator: acknowledgment: 96.44 %
Ambient temperature: 32.0 C
Charge air pressure specified value: 2541 hPa
Accelerator pedal travel: 58.90 %
Air mass: actual value (mg/stroke): 571.8 mg/stroke
Actual charge pressure: 1692 hPa

9120 - EGR Sensor 1
P046C 00 [232] - Implausible Signal
MIL ON - Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 6
Mileage: 95719 km
Date: 2019.05.29
Time: 08:48:50

Engine speed: 1706.50 /min
Normed load value: 94.5 %
Vehicle speed: 104 km/h
Coolant temperature: 88 C
Intake air temperature: 38 C
Ambient air pressure: 980 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 14.320 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
Air mass: actual value (mg/stroke): 496.4 mg/stroke
EGR Vacuum Regulator Solen.val.: activation: 97.14 %
EGR Solen.val.: actual value: 94.30 %
EGR valve: offset closed: -5.10 %
High press EGR actuator: actual unconditioned volt val: 1168.0 mV
EGR valve: offset open: 5.10 %

31982 - EGR Valve (N1
P0403 00 [032] - Malfunction
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 95811 km
Date: 2019.05.29
Time: 11:14:28

Engine speed: 1121.50 /min
Normed load value: 5.1 %
Vehicle speed: 47 km/h
Coolant temperature: 86 C
Intake air temperature: 37 C
Ambient air pressure: 990 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 14.320 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 37
Air mass: actual value (mg/stroke): 261.0 mg/stroke
EGR Vacuum Regulator Solen.val.: activation: 100.00 %
EGR Solen.val.: actual value: 91.69 %
EGR valve: offset closed: -1.18 %
High press EGR actuator: actual unconditioned volt val: 1124.0 mV
EGR valve: offset open: 1.18 %

31983 - EGR Valve (N1
P0403 00 [032] - Malfunction
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 95811 km
Date: 2019.05.29
Time: 11:14:28

Engine speed: 1129.50 /min
Normed load value: 0.0 %
Vehicle speed: 47 km/h
Coolant temperature: 86 C
Intake air temperature: 37 C
Ambient air pressure: 990 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 14.280 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 37
Air mass: actual value (mg/stroke): 168.2 mg/stroke
EGR Vacuum Regulator Solen.val.: activation: 0.00 %
EGR Solen.val.: actual value: 36.44 %
EGR valve: offset closed: -1.18 %
High press EGR actuator: actual unconditioned volt val: 3005.8 mV
EGR valve: offset open: 1.18 %

Readiness: 1 1 0 0 0

I was able to clear the faults and the CEL was gone before driving it to the dealership. They were still able to get the EGR valve and sensor faults even when cleared by VAGCOM. Waiting to pick up my car tomorrow.
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Looks similar. What was the dealer's diagnosis? Are they replacing the EGR?

Mine is still in the garage - awaiting an EGR valve replacement.

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Looks similar. What was the dealer's diagnosis? Are they replacing the EGR?

Mine is still in the garage - awaiting an EGR valve replacement.

The EGR valve and sensor needs to be replaced. I'm supposed to pick up the car today. I have a copy of the court settlement just in case the dealership says its not covered.
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My dealer replaced the EGR valve and the misc parts needed for the intake manifold removal to reach the EGR (gaskets and clips). Good to go now.

There was a nice PSA here (https://www.clubtouareg.com/forums/f...ak-288535.html) that aligned with some things I noticed...but didn't recognize immediately as a problem. I *thought* my 16 TDI had a bit of a slow start at traffic lights...but wasn't sure since this is a fairly new vehicle to me and the passing acceleration is awesome. After the EGR replacement, I feel starting out from traffic lights is noticeably snappier.
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