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Exclamation Drive shaft bearing failure

Anyone from Oz read this post and been following it?

http://www.clubtouareg.com/forums/f6...tml#post245493

A bit of a potential worry if you ask me. Have a read of posts #19 and #20 as this seems to address a fix with parts from a reputable US supplier.

Has any Oz owner had an issue with this bearing carrier? Seems to me that this is a potential periodic maintenance fix, i.e, replace the parts before they fail. I wonder what our dealers know about it?

Is this bearing carrier common on all Tregs? Are all drive shafts the same? I'm starting to think I should have a look at this. Looks simple enough to DIY with the right parts.


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Very well documented issue.

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Very well documented issue.
Yes, it is, which is very useful. But I've not come across it with owners down here (yet).


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I tracked down the US supplier and the part is listed on eBay as Item number:140488851298. Cheap, if this is all that is required. What I want to know is if the 3.2 FSI has the same centre bearing carrier part as the 3.0 TDI. I'm not sure if the V8 or V10 use the same part. I'll email the seller anyway and ask a Q. If it is the same as the 3.2, then seems it would be worth the small $'s to get one (as sh1t always happens).
This looks to be the OEM part No: 7L0 521 407.


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Seller responded to eBay message in 5 mins! He say's the part fits the 3.0 TDI. It's on its way and I'm happy to pay $100 for peace of mind. Part to be kept as a spare with the Treg till I need it/get underneath and have a squiz at the state of mine. And yes, I'm a tad paranoid about crap like this happening...I spent too much time working on aircraft, so I know better than wait till it fails. I'm not going to rely on dealer servicing to pick something like this up on a service. Even if they did, I'd be paying a motza for it.


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How are you going to get it changed out ?
I have been also watching it on eBay, but not sure if I can find competent shop to get it swapped out when time comes. It requires a press to disassemble the shaft and then balancing after they replace the bearing.
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How are you going to get it changed out ?
I have been also watching it on eBay, but not sure if I can find competent shop to get it swapped out when time comes. It requires a press to disassemble the shaft and then balancing after they replace the bearing.
I'll read the DIY bits through. I know people in the motor trade, so I'll get it done at a cheap rate if any special requirements beyond my own mechanical skills. But, I'll have a look under a hoist and check the condition of mine now that I know what I'm looking for.


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Hang on, I did a search through here and all I found (so far) was owner threads and comment about costly rectification after failure. That makes no sense to me. So, am I correct in deducing that there is a frequency of drive shaft centre carriers/bearings that fail (apparently prematurely), but they appear not to be checked during routine servicing? That cannot possibly be true - surely they are checked? Logically, if they were a planned maintenance item, then they'd be replaced at XYZ klms/miles. VW MTBF data should be picking this up. If the carrier or bearing fails before it was intended, then the feedback of data should indicate VW issuing a TSB for rectification at their cost. Of course, no maker wants the public to know MTBF if the figures mean out-of-warranty costs to the maker (thus, extra expense). Some owners have paid a high $ price for a replacement $50 part. I'd be happy for some feedback on this or correct me if I'm getting out of context with the thread.


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The same problem was just identified on my 04 V6 3.2L Treg by the dealer. They suggest to replace the whole propshaft and they charge a lot on it.

It seems not a lot mechanicians had experience handling this.
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It's a non repairable/ non maintainable item as far as VW is concerned and it's not checked on service.

The VW solution is a brand new - not even reconditioned - prop shaft at GB£800-1,000 for the repair.

The bearing replacement can be done by any comptetent transmission specialist or mechanic.

They fail around 60-80K miles.

Don't drive the car if it goes. You can damage the gearbox at GB£5,000 a pop.
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