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post #21 of 914 Old 06-06-2011
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Tongue weight can't exceed 300 pounds is what is says in he book!!!!!!!

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What size is that trailer?????? I'm looking at 26-28 feet. Did it come with brakes or you fitted them?????

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My 19' Boston Whaler weighs 5000 lbs. sitting on its tailer fully loaded. The tongue weight is about 500 lbs. and my V8 Touareg tows it quite nicely.

I had no idea that the tow limit is reduced to 1653 lbs towing a trailer without brakes. Trailer brakes don't last long here after being dipped in salt water over and over again so I disabled my brakes after they rusted. My Touareg stops the trailer as well as my F150 did if not better.

Why such a larger difference between tow capacity of a trailer w/brakes vs. one without brakes?

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Well given that the Treg will have to stop not only itself but what's behind it (unassisted) makes sense for it to be lower, but yes, that's quite a bit lower.

The numbers I quoted above are directly from the book that comes with the vehicle. I just couldn't see any trailer having a tongue weight of 300 pounds unless it was a pop-up one.

You have salt in Hawaii? Wonder why they never figured that out when they built the stadium...

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Siberian, are you looking at maximums? here are some numbers you need to consider:

Max trailer weight 7716 (lets just talk braked trailers for arguments sake)
GVWR: this is the MAX your Touareg can weigh including itself, passengers, any cargo, fuel and the tongue weight of the trailer. You can find GVWR in the doorjam sticker, its roughly 6900lbs for most touaregs but will vary on engine/options
Payload: this is GVWR less the weight of your Touareg...a VERY important number and not all that hard to exceed...it is more on V6s and less on V10 (weight of the engine is the factor). A typical touareg average is 1100lbs, so that means if you are towing a trailer with tongue weight of 700lbs, you only have 400lbs of people/cargo/etc carrying capacity!
GCVWR: total weight of touareg and all the crap onboard (inlcude tongue weight) + total weight of trailer and all the crap onboard LESS tongue weight.

Well sorta. GVWR is based on chassis, suspension, wheel & tire strengths. Designers like for the wheels and tires to be the "weak links" so I am going to risk presuming that this is the case on Touaregs as well. I suspect that the GVWR is close to the sum of the tire capacities. But wait! The tire capacities are for the speed rating of the tire. My 255/55X18 Michelins are load rated at 109Y which is 2271 libs at 186MPH! At 75 or 80 MPH the permissible load is much greater. Not a lot of information is supplied in the US for passenger tires (litigation avoidance, perhaps?) But you can get an idea by looking at a Michelin Light Truck Tire Data Book (page 90 in the 2011 version) at the page titled, "STATIC AND LOW SPEED AND PRESSURE COEFFICIENTS". On this page one can see that a tire rated for 75MPH gains a 7% increase in rated capacity when used at 40 - 49 MPH. I suspect that a 25% to 30%increase in tire and wheel capacity is available by simply operating at the speed limit in North America. In other words I don't feel uncomfortable fitting three adults, race car spares, luggage, tools, and trailer tongue weight into the 1100# available to me.

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GVWR for the V8 2008 with A/S is 6,493 lbs.

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no more than 4000# , don't know tongue weight...
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What size is that trailer?????? I'm looking at 26-28 feet. Did it come with brakes or you fitted them?????

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28'...anything this big comes with brakes.

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