Is having and 04 Treg bad - Page 2

DNA'er · 03-19-2008

Bought an 04 V10 a week ago and my thought process went as follows:

Get a vehicle with a VIN that ends in ^45000
Get a vehicle that comes with an VW extended warranty or one can be purchased
Check Carfax and VW service records for any multiple service visits in a short period
Check to make sure TSB are done prior to warranty expiration

Problems can still occur (and with a vehicle this complex I am sure they will) but I don't think it is a foregone conclusion that all 04's are going to be problem if you do your homework and be proactive on maintainance. Just my newbie opinion.

mrflc · 03-19-2008

I bought my V8 new in 2004 and have all the bells and whistles. Have had relatively few issues. However I did pony up for an extended warranty up to 100K miles. Current odo is 68k and just had to replace drive shaft which seems to be a problem with these cars at this mileage. It was covered ($1600) by extended warranty. I intend to keep mine and think that overall it is a great vehicle. V8 Beige/Tan Interior

**Bails** · 03-26-2008

I have an 04 Manufactured Treg and it has been the best vehicle I've owned ! Have 120,000 klms on it now. I can't think of a vehicle I'd rather own at the moment. Only issue was transmission valves, not restricted to 04 models, was fixed under warranty. Buy a diesel if you want good fuel mileage, mind you if you are in the US and get that real cheap petrol I suppose you can run a V8, but if not get a V6 or V10 TDi.

notabearish1 · 06-03-2008

I have 04 v8 with 26,000 miles (fully loaded - except for Onstar) that i just bought a week ago. I love the car all the way around. There have been people on this site that have had issues with the 04, but mostly electrical and covered by warranties. I have been shopping around for warranties and leaning toward the 4 or 5 year. It's an awesome car and I got a great price for it.

Mike's Panzer · 06-04-2008

My 04 was close to perfect. Stepper motor under warranty, the only issue. Buy one like you would any other used car. Check it out, have a mechanic check it out. Any issues pass and find another one. Lots of used SUV's out there now at great prices.

vitcutter · 08-04-2008

100 dollar oil changes 500 dollar services 1900 dollar brake jobs (unless you call Geoff at Alretta for help). This is a great car, the ultimate snow mobile and rain mobile, but a used one may prove very expensive to keep up. Be ready to pay hefty repair bills, particularly a 2004. Now mine is out of warranty, its time for it to go.

nltomba · 08-04-2008

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Originally Posted by vitcutter

100 dollar oil changes 500 dollar services 1900 dollar brake jobs (unless you call Geoff at Alretta for help). This is a great car, the ultimate snow mobile and rain mobile, but a used one may prove very expensive to keep up. Be ready to pay hefty repair bills, particularly a 2004. Now mine is out of warranty, its time for it to go.

Make that $70 oil changes, 10k services at part cost(1stvwparts.com) and a $600 brakejob (parts only) and some hours on the garagefloor or under the hood and dash and tires from tirerack.
Mine is experienced with 87k on the ODO. Only major brakedown was a waterpump that went bad at 70k. So I did an early timingbelt while they were at it so the extra expenses were about 200 above normal.
No extra warranty an so far not needed.
Letting it go because it is out of warranty is financialy not smart unless money is not an object. So far mine does not cost more the expedition I had before.
And yes I have an early 2004. I would buy one again.

JMcGowan · 08-07-2008

How much was the water pump to replace? And I thought the 4.2 V8 was a timing chain not a timing belt?

Thanks

**Vegas Matt** · 08-07-2008

V6-Timing Chain
V6 TDI-???
V8-Timing belt-due at 80,000 miles
R5 TDI and V10 TDI- Gear-driven

From what I understand on the V8, it's prudent to change the water pump while doing the timing belt. It is in the same vicinity, and is apparently very accessible when changing the belt.

Matt

nltomba · 08-07-2008

It was all together about $1800
It included timing belt, serpentine belt, new waterpump, new thermostat, tensioner and all of the labor including about $100 for overnight delivery on parts since my alternative would have been a rental car. However I think they should have had these parts in stock since it is a maintenance item. But then the dealer stocks hardly anything anymore.
It is labor intensive since the whole front of the car needs to be taken off

03-19-2008	#11
DNA'er Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 93	Bought an 04 V10 a week ago and my thought process went as follows: Get a vehicle with a VIN that ends in ^45000 Get a vehicle that comes with an VW extended warranty or one can be purchased Check Carfax and VW service records for any multiple service visits in a short period Check to make sure TSB are done prior to warranty expiration Problems can still occur (and with a vehicle this complex I am sure they will) but I don't think it is a foregone conclusion that all 04's are going to be problem if you do your homework and be proactive on maintainance. Just my newbie opinion. __________________ Touareg V10 Diesel Colorado Red/beige interior

03-26-2008	#13
Bails Super Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Wollongong Australia Posts: 421 Images: 2	I have an 04 Manufactured Treg and it has been the best vehicle I've owned ! Have 120,000 klms on it now. I can't think of a vehicle I'd rather own at the moment. Only issue was transmission valves, not restricted to 04 models, was fixed under warranty. Buy a diesel if you want good fuel mileage, mind you if you are in the US and get that real cheap petrol I suppose you can run a V8, but if not get a V6 or V10 TDi. __________________ V10 TDi with everything,AUDI Allroad 2.7T Chipped,Buell XB12X,R1200RT

06-04-2008	#15
Mike's Panzer Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 345	My 04 was close to perfect. Stepper motor under warranty, the only issue. Buy one like you would any other used car. Check it out, have a mechanic check it out. Any issues pass and find another one. Lots of used SUV's out there now at great prices. __________________ 2007 V-10 Reed Green Air Supp. Tow Pkg. Four Zone Winter Pkg. Lock Diff. Llumar tint Mud Flaps Euro Bin and Headlight switch Sirius Radio Seat covers

08-04-2008	#16
vitcutter Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: akron Posts: 61	think maintenance!!! 100 dollar oil changes 500 dollar services 1900 dollar brake jobs (unless you call Geoff at Alretta for help). This is a great car, the ultimate snow mobile and rain mobile, but a used one may prove very expensive to keep up. Be ready to pay hefty repair bills, particularly a 2004. Now mine is out of warranty, its time for it to go. __________________ reprogrammer

08-07-2008	#18
JMcGowan Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: South Bend, IN Posts: 52	How much was the water pump to replace? And I thought the 4.2 V8 was a timing chain not a timing belt? Thanks __________________ 2004 Black V8, Loaded, Grey Leather

03-19-2008	#12
mrflc Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 4	I bought my V8 new in 2004 and have all the bells and whistles. Have had relatively few issues. However I did pony up for an extended warranty up to 100K miles. Current odo is 68k and just had to replace drive shaft which seems to be a problem with these cars at this mileage. It was covered ($1600) by extended warranty. I intend to keep mine and think that overall it is a great vehicle. V8 Beige/Tan Interior

06-03-2008	#14
notabearish1 Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: CA Posts: 47	I have 04 v8 with 26,000 miles (fully loaded - except for Onstar) that i just bought a week ago. I love the car all the way around. There have been people on this site that have had issues with the 04, but mostly electrical and covered by warranties. I have been shopping around for warranties and leaning toward the 4 or 5 year. It's an awesome car and I got a great price for it.

08-07-2008	#19
Vegas Matt Super Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Location: Henderson/Las Vegas NV Posts: 2,167	V6-Timing Chain V6 TDI-??? V8-Timing belt-due at 80,000 miles R5 TDI and V10 TDI- Gear-driven From what I understand on the V8, it's prudent to change the water pump while doing the timing belt. It is in the same vicinity, and is apparently very accessible when changing the belt. Matt __________________ 2005 V6, Shadow Blue/Kristal Grey, Package 1 (Xenons/Sound 1), self-installed OEM Hitch, BlitzSafe Aux Adapter "I live in an RV. If it breaks down, I'm home. 'When you moving?' 'When I get a new radiator hose.'" - Mitch Hedberg

08-07-2008	#20
nltomba Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: SW Missouri Posts: 644	It was all together about $1800 It included timing belt, serpentine belt, new waterpump, new thermostat, tensioner and all of the labor including about $100 for overnight delivery on parts since my alternative would have been a rental car. However I think they should have had these parts in stock since it is a maintenance item. But then the dealer stocks hardly anything anymore. It is labor intensive since the whole front of the car needs to be taken off __________________ own 2004 V8 touareg, nav, air suspension

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