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Brake Pad Warning, how long do I have?

Got the brake pad warning light a couple of days ago (35,508 Miles on the originals). How long do I have to replace them before there is trouble?

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New brake pads have 11mm friction material. The wear limit is 2mm, so if you've used 9mm in 35,508mi you should be able to go another 7,890.67mi before you hit metal to metal...

But the warning is there for a reason, so I'd change theme asap.

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What AndrieK said! You could damage other parts and it could cost you more.
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I would wait until 40k. As AndrieK says, there is still brake pad material left. Unless your braking habits change drastically, you should be able to make 40k without going metal to metal. And even if you do, you should be able to notice it and get them changed on relatively short notice. More than likely you will have to change the rotors at the same time. So even if you score them a little it isn't the end of the world.

You might also want to look at our commercial posts section on this thread: Aftermarket F/R rotors, pads, hardware, and sensors now!
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One owner reported that when the light came on there was about 2.5mm left. This means that you have about 0.5mm of usable material left because the minimum pad thickness is 2mm. 35.5K / 8.5 mm = about 4100 miles per mm of pad wear. So you should change the pads and rotors within about 2000 miles. I would personally do them ASAP.

I'd stay with European spec pads and rotors. Such as EBC, ATE (both are European ECE R90 certified), if you don't want to stay with VW OEM (Pagid/Brembo) pads and rotors (Schwäbische Hütten Werke).

As for aftermarket Hawk LTS pads (its parent company makes pads for Boeing jets and main battle tanks) and Zimmermann anti-corrosion coated rotors (German TUV certified) would be a good combination as well. An fellow member had over 80K miles on the rear axle set (IIRC the front Hawk HPS didn't last as long as the heavy duty LTS).

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Got the brake pad warning light a couple of days ago (35,508 Miles on the originals). How long do I have to replace them before there is trouble?

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I'd say 1000 to 2000 miles and after that it's just kinda dumb to not do them...brake pads are about $200-250 and sensors are about 15 bucks each...if you want to just do the fronts I'm sure you can get them done for $500 everything included from a random mechanic.
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From experience, I will go with Spockcat on this one...........

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Agreed. A German TUV-certified, anti-corrosion coated rotor averages to about $95 per corner (Zimmermann Coat-Z). Long lasting Hawk LTS is like about $110-130 per axle (nltomba has this rear setup > 80K miles now). And right, sensors about $12 each corner.

Even if you get parts for all corners it's like $670 or so (for example, check autopartswarehouse.com among the many online stores). nltomba suggested asking for "free shipping" as competition is fierce.

You already "saw the light". So don't wait for the 0.5mm to wear off. It's just not worth it on a 5000 lb SUV, IMO.



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I'd say 1000 to 2000 miles and after that it's just kinda dumb to not do them...brake pads are about $200-250 and sensors are about 15 bucks each...if you want to just do the fronts I'm sure you can get them done for $500 everything included from a random mechanic.
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Thanks all! Just wanted to make sure there was no immediate problem. I'll get the parts from Geoff soon. I should be able to make it till the weather cools down a bit before I do the work, it's brutal here now.

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I just did one of our Touaregs brakes after about 4,500 miles after the warning came on. Lot's of shoe thickness still left.
You can easily get RAYBESTOS or WAGNER shoes most everywhere for reasonable $.

As well, I am now thouroughly convinced I will have my rotors turned on our other Touareg instead of the so popular "Replace the rotors" every time. Measured mine and had adequate thickness still but they were replaced.

They are just rotors with lots of metal/overall thickness available for turning and new pad install...Kind of like doing a brake job.
The worst thing that could happen after turning them is eventually they could (but won't on just one turning) warp and cause some feedback in the steering wheel = Get new rotors then.

I have removed the PIXIE Dust at least at my house for our Touaregs regarding this "Replace the rotors" every 40K miles falacy.
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