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Just took the 04 Touareg in for the 80K service, they want to change the timing belt for $1200.00. The car has 83K on it, and I will be keeping the car until 100K and then get a new car. Has anyone been told this? Does anyone have 100K on there car? By the way no complaints of motor problems they just want to do it as prevenitive maintenance.
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The owners manual clearly states the timing belt is to be replaced at 80k.

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Trust me on this, do it before it breaks. I had a friend who just lost his on his Passat. It cost him almost double that for he needed head work when it went out. So as they say, pay a little now or a lot later!!

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The timing belt (why the hell do foreign car manufactureres still use belts? They should be chains, they'd last pretty much forever!!) connects the crankshaft to the camshaft(s). If the belt (or chain) breaks, the cams will be out of time with the crank, causing the valves to hit the pistons, breaking them, bruising the pistons, breaking the rocker arms, and pretty much obliterating the entire top half of the engine. The entire engine will need to be torn down, the pistons replaced, and the entire top half replaced (other than the heads themselves). It's pretty labor intensive work (especially on a DOHC engine) and is therefore pretty expensive to repair.

I don't buy $1200 for the timing belt change, though. All they need to do is take the cover off the front of the engine and change the belt and reset the crank timing. Unless the belt is in the back of the engine? Anyone know?

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The timing belt (why the hell do foreign car manufactureres still use belts? They should be chains, they'd last pretty much forever!!)
LOL.... VW's VR6 uses a timing chain.. What your forgetting is a lot of the time it's not the belt/chain that fails on new cars, it's the tensioners

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I buy the 1200 if that is what they want charge. My friend just had his replaced on his Passat 1.8T and it cost him 2600 because he needed head work. I say follow the manual and get it done for a little now or pay a lot more later.

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Or buy an R5 or V10 tdi, they have gear driven valvetrain.
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I do not know for sure but i believe just about the whole front of the car needs to come off to get to it. I know this is the case with the audi and since this is pretty much the same engine.......
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What's the deal the with the V10 TDI? I thought they need to have the timing belt changed at the same time. I haven't looked at the manual in a while so don't quote me. I had a Jetta TDI 2000 and it needed a timing belt change every 60K. I was a good boy and did that. However on my 120K change, they didn't change the tensioners....cost me a whole new head!!!! I got a fantastic deal with a new head at cost for $1200!!! Not including labor. So, is there something different with the v10 TDI???

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What's the deal the with the V10 TDI? I thought they need to have the timing belt changed at the same time. I haven't looked at the manual in a while so don't quote me. I had a Jetta TDI 2000 and it needed a timing belt change every 60K. I was a good boy and did that. However on my 120K change, they didn't change the tensioners....cost me a whole new head!!!! I got a fantastic deal with a new head at cost for $1200!!! Not including labor. So, is there something different with the v10 TDI???
http://www.ricardo.com/download/pdf/..._Benchmark.pdf

Look for V10 tdi and R5 tdi, they are both 'gear driven' valvetrain, no belt, no chain, very robust and low maintenance, but like motorcycle engine with gear driven valvetrains, can get noisy with high mileage (so I'm told).
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