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Old 06-17-2010   #1
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3.0 TDI Oil Change

Does anyone have experience removing the old oil by vacuum evacuation through the dip stick tube? I do this on my MB engines (it's the MB factory standard service method) and it removes more oil than using the drain plug on the oil pan.

Will it work on the 3.0 TDI motor?

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I Use a Pela Pro 14 Extractor for my V10tdi, and works very well. I'm not familiar with where the oil filter is in your 3.0TDI, if it's on top, then your able to do it! As there won't be a need to crawl under there to change the filter.

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I Use a Pela Pro 14 Extractor for my V10tdi, and works very well. I'm not familiar with where the oil filter is in your 3.0TDI, if it's on top, then your able to do it! As there won't be a need to crawl under there to change the filter.
Thanks for the response. Oil filter is right up on top in the center of the engine. It's buried a bit, but accessible.

I use a MityVac 7300, which is pneumatic. Works like a charm.

The first time, I'll probably drop the skid plate and the drain plug after I get all I can with the MityVac. That way I can assure myself that I got it all.

Porsche Cayenne dry sump would not vac it all out. Had to drop the skid plates anyway to access the filter. I'm glad that's done with.
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Just curious, is the reason you are doing your own change because you do not trust the dealer to touch it (or do it right), or you just like working on the Treg , or you are doing them at less than the 10K interval specified and covered by the dealer/book, or ? I like the vacuum concept. Never tried one though.
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Just curious, is the reason you are doing your own change because you do not trust the dealer to touch it (or do it right), or you just like working on the Treg , or you are doing them at less than the 10K interval specified and covered by the dealer/book, or ? I like the vacuum concept. Never tried one though.
The vacuum evacuation works very well. You can pretty much do the job in your Sunday clothes, and not get dirty.

Reasons for doing it myself pretty much encompass all of your reasons.

1.) I don't generally trust dealer techs. a.) They work on the Flat Rate Manual; and, as a result, have a tendency to rush through jobs faster than they should. b.) If they were any good, they'd have their own shop.
2.) I like working on all of my vehicles. In this case it's a Q7 3.0 TDI. (Reason for asking here is that most Audi owners don't do their own maintenance, and the engines in this case are the same.)
3.) This first oil/filter change was at 1,781 miles. I would have preferred it to be closer to 1,000 miles; but it just couldn't be scheduled then. Next will be at 5k and every 5k thereafter. Over kill? Perhaps, but it makes me and my engines happy.
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That is what counts. Thanks for the info on the oil vacuum (lot of that going on lately). I will definitely check it out. I suppose it should work nicely on my Jetta also.
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The vacuum evacuation works very well. You can pretty much do the job in your Sunday clothes, and not get dirty.

Reasons for doing it myself pretty much encompass all of your reasons.

1.) I don't generally trust dealer techs. a.) They work on the Flat Rate Manual; and, as a result, have a tendency to rush through jobs faster than they should. b.) If they were any good, they'd have their own shop.
2.) I like working on all of my vehicles. In this case it's a Q7 3.0 TDI. (Reason for asking here is that most Audi owners don't do their own maintenance, and the engines in this case are the same.)
3.) This first oil/filter change was at 1,781 miles. I would have preferred it to be closer to 1,000 miles; but it just couldn't be scheduled then. Next will be at 5k and every 5k thereafter. Over kill? Perhaps, but it makes me and my engines happy.
Thumbs up for the Q7. I looked at them, but they were a bit pricey as compared to the Touareg. I do love the refined look of the Audis. You have a buyer when you are ready to sell.
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I used a hand pump to draw some oil out of mine at 10k mi after the dealer overfilled it. But this only involved about 3/4 l. So I can't speak to how low you can go this way.

Definitely let us know how it works out. (Pics would be good too.) Good luck!
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I used a hand pump to draw some oil out of mine at 10k mi after the dealer overfilled it. But this only involved about 3/4 l. So I can't speak to how low you can go this way.

Definitely let us know how it works out. (Pics would be good too.) Good luck!
It worked great. Only minor problem is all the wires over and around the filter housing. Sorry, no pics; but it's really very straight forward.

Run the engine until hot. Remove the dipstick and insert the extractor tube until it bottoms in the oil pan.. Remove the engine shroud. Disconnect the wires around the filter. Unscrew the filter cover. Pull up on the filter element to allow the oil in the filter housing to drain down into the engine. Carefully remove the filter element with a rag around it to prevent slopping oil on the engine. Pump out the oil using the extractor. (Caution - very hot!)

Insert a new filter element with the alignment peg pointing down and rotate the element while gently pushing down to seat the alignment peg in its hole. Replace the o-ring on the filter cover and screw the filter cover back in place. Torque to 35 Nm. Replace disconnected wire plugs. Add 8.5 qts VW 507 00 oil. Replace the filler cap and the engine cover. Start the engine and let it run for a few seconds. Stop the engine and check the oil level. Adjust if necessary. You're done.
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Great write-up, thanks!

Quick question--how does the shroud come loose? Checking fluids today, I didn't see any obvious toggles.

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