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Old 03-27-2012   #1
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2012 TDI Help with Oil Change...

Hello...I apologize to post something this simple but I was wondering if anyone would mind chiming in on my plans to change the oil in my 2012 Touareg TDI. I have 5,300 miles (very happy, fun trouble free miles I might add) and want to change the oil based on what I've read in other posts. Call it an abundance of caution, but I figure it can't hurt, unless I screw it up that is. I went to the VW dealership today and bought the filter and o-ring as well as nine quarts of the approved Castrol SLX oil. There were comments in another post about removing the engine cover and using a 32mm socket to remove the oil cap, but it looks like the 2011 and 2012's must be designed differently. Attached is a picture from under the hood showing what I believe to be the oil filler cap which simply unscrews. I didn't fool with it because the engine was hot, but am I correct in that I simply unscrew the cap, remove the filter assembly and replace the o-ring and filter? Actually, here are the steps that I think I need to take and maybe people can correct any mistakes:

1) Unscrew the drain plug underneath the engine (after removing the cover)
2) Remove the drain cap at the top and remove the piece where the o-ring goes and throw away old filter and o-ring.
3) After oil drains from engine (not sure how long this takes), replace the drain plug.
4) Refill engine with oil through top
5) Replace filter and assembly
6) Screw the cap down.

Am I missing anything? The other question I had was when to do this. I seem to remember reading that maybe 45 minutes after shutting down the engine is about the right time to do this - is that correct? And of course the $1,000,000.00 question - exactly how many quarts of oil go back in? The dealership said 8 and 1/2 quarts...Sound right? I really appreciate any feedback as the last thing I want to do is screw up a brand new engine. Thanks, Tyson
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Old 03-27-2012   #2
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If you were reading about how to change the oil on an 09-10 V6 TDI then they would apply to you since the motor is the exact same one as was in them. You have to remove the oil filler cap to remove the engine cover. It just pulls off and no tools required. Once you remove the cover you will see everything you need to see that was in the discription.

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I would wait till the (minimum) oem recommendation @ app 10,000 miles !!! There are a lot of reasons for this, if you want to go into it in detail. Even 10,000 miles is way over kill for VW 507 5w30 oil and filter designed (European) to go 30,000 miles or 50,000 KMS.
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See that nice lookin things that has the VW logo on it and says "TDI?" that isn't your engine, its just a fancy cover. pull straight up on it, you'll find where the 32mm wrench needs to go (its right around the middle).

the cap is where you pour the oil into, that isn't where your oil filter is.

Germans don't know what quarts are...the engine takes 9L of oil.
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Where do you put the hose for the topside evacuation method, as the V6 TDI does not seem to have an oil dipstick anymore (4 cylinder TDI's have the dipstick and opening almost literally front and center) ?

Right you are in that the difference between liters (33.8 oz) and qts (32 oz) is 1.8 oz (128 oz = gal) So 9 L is 2.38 gals (actually 2.37656) or 9.51 qts. (actually 9.50625)

If I am not mistaken, Mobil One ESP 5w30, VW 507.00 AND MB 229.51 5w40 are sold by the qt in the USA market.
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There is still a dipstick tube that is where the topside oil evac would be done. It has an orange cap on it. I have read however that oil extraction isn't recommended on this engine in the SSP. Do so at your own risk.
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Is there a logic why? I have been doing the topside evacuation method on VW Jetta TDI 2003 for 175,000 miles plus with ZERO ill effect/s, albeit 4 cylinder. (app 9 times)
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Well, made my first run at it today, and everything was going swimmingly until I couldn't get the drain plug unscrewed! I remember reading somewhere in another forum what type of allen wrench it takes. I believe it was 3/16" that fit, but it wasn't a snug enough fit and when I really tried to turn it I almost stripped it. So I gave up pretty quickly. My guess is that the wrench needs to be some metric system measurement? Does anyone know for sure, and if so, where does one find these tools (Home Depot, Lowe's, or some place more specialized)? Thanks again for all the feedback. Tyson
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This looks like a disaster waiting to happen. As has already been suggested, the oil is designed to be run for 10k miles and formulated with additives to allow proper break in of the engine. Removing it prematurely may cause issues and could possibly have repercussions if you haven't followed the dealer's intervals regarding oil changes as specified, ultimately voiding your warranty.

Since when has any European made vehicle utilized anything other than metric sized fasteners? Go buy some proper tools before you damage anything else.
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Is there a logic why? I have been doing the topside evacuation method on VW Jetta TDI 2003 for 175,000 miles plus with ZERO ill effect/s, albeit 4 cylinder. (app 9 times)

I believe it has to do with the fact that the3.0 tdi in the Touareg has a dual staged/zoned oil pan to prevent foaming when offroading. These two layers have been believed to prevent complete extraction.

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